From: Bod on
On 29/03/2010 17:08, Brimstone wrote:
>
>
> <boltar2003(a)boltar.world> wrote in message
> news:hoqhpd$cu4$1(a)speranza.aioe.org...
>> On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 13:50:28 +0100
>> Clive George <clive(a)xxxx-x.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>>> I think you've just discovered why they were riding where they were - to
>>> stop you doing a dangerous overtake.
>>
>> The lane was quite wide enough for cars to overtake safely if they'd
>> moved
>> over to the normal position bikes tend to take. This was a main A road
>> to the
>> M25, not a country lane.
>>
> "Wide enough" according whose criteria, yours or a cyclists?
>
> It sounds as if you wanted to squeeze between the tandem and the
> oncoming traffic, in which case the cyclist was protecting himself by
> prevent you from doing so.
>
>

Why then did the tandem only move over after having been tooted?

Bod
From: JNugent on
mileburner wrote:
> "David" <none(a)selectfire.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:hoq9il$stv$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>> <boltar2003(a)boltar.world> wrote in message
>> news:hoq47n$j44$1(a)speranza.aioe.org...
>>> On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 12:36:32 +0100
>>> "David" <none(a)selectfire.co.uk> wrote:
>>>> <boltar2003(a)boltar.world> wrote in message
>>>> news:hopt8k$65t$1(a)speranza.aioe.org...
>>>>>> Would I be correct in inferring there was an advanced stop line?
>>>>> There was
>>>> Conveniently failed to mention that did we?
>>> Its of no consequence. An advanced stop line is just that , its not a
>>> "block
>>> the traffic once the lights have gone green" line.
>> He was blocking the traffic no more than any other vehicle. If you knew
>> how to drive you'd know that you have to pull into the adjacent lane to
>> over take. Whether it be a Ferrari, a bicycle or a milk float.
>
> Numpty driver mentality has it that cyclists need to ride close to the edge
> "for their own safety". Fast cars are allowed to hog the lane, milk floats
> are not.

Whether or not a lane is being hogged (not that "lanes" seem to be an issue
here) is a function of the speed of the hogging vehicle (relative to other
vehicles going in the same direction) and the available road width. The road
is only being hogged if someone is being unreasonably and avoidably denied
the space to make reasonable progress.

If a Ferrari is disappearing out of sight in front of me, the driver isn't
hogging my path.
From: Adrian on
"Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying:

>> Anyway - flights rarely arrive an hour or so early without plenty of
>> warning, if you can be bothered to look at the airport's arrivals info
>> on the web.

> I had to pick someone up from a different airport recently. They landed
> about 45 minutes early. How does one look up the arrival info when one
> is driving to the airport?

How long was the drive to the airport? An hour? Two?

If they're going to land 45min early, you'll find the ETA will reflect
that almost from the time their plane takes off.

So - you look at the ETA an hour or two before you're due to leave, in
order to see if you need to bring the collection time forward. After all,
a shorthaul flight doesn't make up 45min.
From: Adrian on
"Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying:

>> This was a main A road to the M25, not a country lane.

> "Wide enough" according whose criteria, yours or a cyclists?

There's at least one single-track country road leads straight off an M25
junction, anyway...
From: JNugent on
Adrian wrote:
> "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like
> they were saying:
>
>>> This was a main A road to the M25, not a country lane.
>
>> "Wide enough" according whose criteria, yours or a cyclists?
>
> There's at least one single-track country road leads straight off an M25
> junction, anyway...

He said it was the A22 and he was heading for Gatwick.

I imagine he wouldn't use the A22 southbound from Coulsdon southbound past
Caterham to go to Gatwick from the north (where the road is mostly dual
carriageway anyway) when he had A23/M23 available. And northbound, the last
half-mile or between A25 and M25 is also d/c. It seems a fair guess that he
was in area somewhere around East Grinstead. The road is not d/c (though some
odd bits are), but is not exactly narrow in country lane terms either.