From: thomas.covenant on 7 Apr 2010 02:45
On Apr 7, 7:15 am, %ste...(a)malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote:
> The Medway Handyman <davidl...(a)no-spam-blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
> > > So who were they "scrounging" off before motorists started paying to
> > > use the roads?
> > Anyone they could knowing cyclists.
> Cyclists were, at one time, required to pay tolls to use the roads. They
> refused to pay since they are truly scrounging bastards. Hence they were
> scrounging off other road users who did make their payments to the
> turnpike trusts.
> The end of tolls for cycling on turnpikes happened at about the same
> time as the development of the motor car (around 1895) so it's the car
> that cyclists can thank for their freedom from tolls, not their own
> illegal behaviour.
> As usual the ingratitudinous revisionists like to pretend that they have
> special status (they don't) and that they were resonsible for obtaining
> their current toll-free status (they weren't).
> Brimstone remains a blustering know-nothing.
Most motorists pay a tax/charge/payment (call it what you like) to
enable them to use the roads, most cyclists don't.
Wriggle/squirm/protest as much as you like, but it is true.
From: mileburner on 8 Apr 2010 05:05
"Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> "The Medway Handyman" <davidlang(a)no-spam-blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in
>> Dave - intelligent enough to realise that a push bike is a kid's toy, not
>> a viable form of transport.
I am away atm doing a bit of camping/holidaying/relative visiting. I put the
hybrid on the back of the car before we left so that I could do some cycling
and can get around a bit while DW can spend some time with her family and I
am not tied to being their with them *all day*.
I am actually quite amazed at how short the distances are by bike and what a
viable form of transport cycling actually is. The trips which typically take
20mins to half an hour in the car take about 30 - 40 mins by bike. There are
lots of short cuts and I don't get stuck in traffic either.
Much nicer too!
From: mileburner on 8 Apr 2010 05:09
> Most motorists pay a tax/charge/payment (call it what you like) to
> enable them to use the roads, most cyclists don't.
> Wriggle/squirm/protest as much as you like, but it is true.
Most of the cyclists I know pay VED on their cars. I can only think of one
cyclist I know who does not own a car.
The above is clearly not true.
From: Adrian on 8 Apr 2010 05:22
"mileburner" <mileburner(a)btinternet.com> gurgled happily, sounding much
like they were saying:
>> Most motorists pay a tax/charge/payment (call it what you like) to
>> enable them to use the roads, most cyclists don't.
>> Wriggle/squirm/protest as much as you like, but it is true.
> Most of the cyclists I know pay VED on their cars. I can only think of
> one cyclist I know who does not own a car.
> The above is clearly not true.
To claim that there's some link between the possession of a valid VED and
a _person's_ "right" to use the road is clearly false - as those of us
with multiple cars know only too well.
Whether a VED requires payment or not is also irrelevant, apart from
disproving the "paying for the roads" silliness.
From: Tim on 9 Apr 2010 17:49
On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 9:57:34 +0100, boltar2003(a)boltar.world wrote
(in message <hopq1u$vvu$1(a)speranza.aioe.org>):
> I was sitting at some lights on the A22 (not exactly a minor road) when a
> couple on a Tandem come past and stop. Not to the side, oh no. They stop
> right bang in front of me. Unsurprisingly when the lights go green me and
> all the traffic behind are now slooowly accelerating to a heady speed of
> 15mph and its only when I hammer the horn that these pair of tossers move
> over and I look in the mirror and the bloke at the front is laughing. I was
> sorely tempted to slam on the brakes and see how funny he thought it was
> So what gives? Not content with getting in the way on side roads some of you
> people now think you have to block the main roads too to feel safe because
> voluntaritly choose a dangerous mode of transport?
Do you drive a BMW with your fog lights on?
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