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From: Derek C on 29 Mar 2010 09:35 On Mar 29, 2:22 pm, "David" <n...(a)selectfire.co.uk> wrote: > <boltar2...(a)boltar.world> wrote in message > > news:hoq47n$j44$1(a)speranza.aioe.org... > > > On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 12:36:32 +0100 > > "David" <n...(a)selectfire.co.uk> wrote: > >><boltar2...(a)boltar.world> wrote in message > >>news:hopt8k$65t$1(a)speranza.aioe.org... > >>>>Would I be correct in inferring there was an advanced stop line? > > >>> There was > > >>Conveniently failed to mention that did we? > > > Its of no consequence. An advanced stop line is just that , its not a > > "block > > the traffic once the lights have gone green" line. > > He was blocking the traffic no more than any other vehicle. If you knew how > to drive you'd know that you have to pull into the adjacent lane to over > take. Whether it be a Ferrari, a bicycle or a milk float. Most cyclists are slow and quite narrow, so can be safely overtaken if the road is wide enough and if they keep well over to the nearside. On the advance stop line issue, when I stop on my bike at red traffic lights (which I always do, unlike some other cyclists), I either get ahead of the first vehicle in the queue where I am easily visible, or hang back a few yards so I can avoid being cut up if the vehicle turns left, especially if it's a large, long wheelbase, truck. Derek C
From: mileburner on 29 Mar 2010 09:36 "David" <none(a)selectfire.co.uk> wrote in message news:hoq9il$stv$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > <boltar2003(a)boltar.world> wrote in message > news:hoq47n$j44$1(a)speranza.aioe.org... >> On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 12:36:32 +0100 >> "David" <none(a)selectfire.co.uk> wrote: >>><boltar2003(a)boltar.world> wrote in message >>>news:hopt8k$65t$1(a)speranza.aioe.org... >>>>>Would I be correct in inferring there was an advanced stop line? >>>> >>>> There was >>> >>>Conveniently failed to mention that did we? >> >> Its of no consequence. An advanced stop line is just that , its not a >> "block >> the traffic once the lights have gone green" line. > > He was blocking the traffic no more than any other vehicle. If you knew > how to drive you'd know that you have to pull into the adjacent lane to > over take. Whether it be a Ferrari, a bicycle or a milk float. Numpty driver mentality has it that cyclists need to ride close to the edge "for their own safety". Fast cars are allowed to hog the lane, milk floats are not.
From: mileburner on 29 Mar 2010 10:00 Derek C wrote: > Most cyclists are slow and quite narrow, so can be safely overtaken if > the road is wide enough and if they keep well over to the nearside. While this is true, many drivers will not leave the space they ought to if they can see there is a chance that they can squeeze through. Keeping well over toward the centre ensures that they will only pass if there really is enough space and if they do sidewipe, there is somewhere to go. Gutter riding is not an option if you want to stay alive and well.
From: Man at B&Q on 29 Mar 2010 10:21 On Mar 29, 1:52 pm, "Brimstone" <brimst...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: > > How does that work when the appointment has been brought forward? Leave earlier based on the new time. If it's a lst minute change and the the new appt time doesn't allow you to get there on time allowing for traffic then reject it. MBQ
From: Bod on 29 Mar 2010 10:35
On 29/03/2010 15:00, mileburner wrote: > Derek C wrote: > >> Most cyclists are slow and quite narrow, so can be safely overtaken if >> the road is wide enough and if they keep well over to the nearside. > > While this is true, many drivers will not leave the space they ought to if > they can see there is a chance that they can squeeze through. Keeping well > over toward the centre ensures that they will only pass if there really is > enough space and if they do sidewipe, there is somewhere to go. Gutter > riding is not an option if you want to stay alive and well. > > Well I've managed it in about 53 years of cycling. Bod |