From: GT on
"'Nel'" <who(a)where.com> wrote in message
news:SUV6o.56494$X%4.15667(a)hurricane...
>> The moral is stop on amber,
>
> Are you quite sure about that??
>
> Lately, I'd be sat at a roundabout with lights - ones where you can make
> out the sequence of lights pointing to the trafic to my right. As I watch
> them go amber, then red I then watch as one,
> two........three................four & often five vehicles swoop past me
> when, by now, my lights are clearly on green!!
>
> Sadly, this is more & more becoming the norm now.

Yes - we shouldn't allow traffic lights on roundabouts - they cease to be
roundabouts when lights are used to restrict traffic 'flow'. We should have
roundabouts in some places and traffic lights in others. Not a bizarre,
confusing mix. There are traffic lights on a large roundabout near the Gyle,
west of Edinburgh. When approaching from one direction, you can see three
sets of lights for your road, you can see the set of lights on the
roundabout that you will reach next and you can see the set of lights
controlling the cars who you are 'fighting' for position with. Very
confusing. Also very annoying at night, when you can see there is no
traffic, but you have a red light on a piece of road still marked as a
roundabout!


From: Ian Jackson on
In message <4c5c2d53$0$30169$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com>, GT <a(a)b.c>
writes
>"'Nel'" <who(a)where.com> wrote in message
>news:SUV6o.56494$X%4.15667(a)hurricane...
>>> The moral is stop on amber,
>>
>> Are you quite sure about that??
>>
>> Lately, I'd be sat at a roundabout with lights - ones where you can make
>> out the sequence of lights pointing to the trafic to my right. As I watch
>> them go amber, then red I then watch as one,
>> two........three................four & often five vehicles swoop past me
>> when, by now, my lights are clearly on green!!
>>
>> Sadly, this is more & more becoming the norm now.
>
>Yes - we shouldn't allow traffic lights on roundabouts - they cease to be
>roundabouts when lights are used to restrict traffic 'flow'. We should have
>roundabouts in some places and traffic lights in others. Not a bizarre,
>confusing mix. There are traffic lights on a large roundabout near the Gyle,
>west of Edinburgh. When approaching from one direction, you can see three
>sets of lights for your road, you can see the set of lights on the
>roundabout that you will reach next and you can see the set of lights
>controlling the cars who you are 'fighting' for position with. Very
>confusing. Also very annoying at night, when you can see there is no
>traffic, but you have a red light on a piece of road still marked as a
>roundabout!
>
There are times when traffic lights are needed - for example, when the
roundabout is large, and the circulating traffic can travel at a
considerable speed. But even then, they can usually be 'peak time'
lights, and switched off when they cease to serve any useful purpose.

Better still, the lights can usually be replaced by mini-roundabouts
(forming a 'magic roundabout', as found at Swindon, Hemel Hempstead and
Uxbridge), which serve to slow the circulating traffic, and break it up,
while still allowing traffic to join and leave without undue hindrance.
--
Ian