Open letter to CA drivers
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From: bugo on 12 Apr 2010 01:44 "Scott in SoCal" <scottenaztlan(a)yahoo.com> wrote in message news:qdc5s55n1ilj5hmnmmm7mun00v2nrnfra6(a)4ax.com... > Last time on ca.driving, "bugo" <bugonospam(a)hotmail.com> said: > >>Apparently you read my post. Larry and Scott read something into it that >>simply did not happen. > > When the only one who agrees with you is the resident newsgroup troll, > that ought to tell you something. When a resident troll can understand what I posted perfectly well and you can't, that ought to tell you something.
From: gpsman on 12 Apr 2010 01:52 On Apr 12, 1:39 am, Scott in SoCal <scottenazt...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Last time on ca.driving, "bugo" <bugonos...(a)hotmail.com> said: > > >Apparently you read my post. Larry and Scott read something into it that > >simply did not happen. > > When the only one who agrees with you is the resident newsgroup troll, > that ought to tell you something. Attaboy! Whup that false premise. Whenever you find yourself on the side of the majority, it is time to pause and reflect. - Twain > -- > The MFFY Litmus Test: > If your maneuver forces another driver WHO HAS THE RIGHT-OF-WAY > to alter course or speed, what you did was probably MFFY. When your sig suggests you are obsessed with MFFYs, you're a MFFY. ----- - gpsman
From: CAHighway99 on 12 Apr 2010 02:52 On Apr 11, 10:32 pm, Scott in SoCal <scottenazt...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > Last time on rec.autos.driving, Brent Jonas <brentrjo...(a)aol.com> > said: > > >Eh, just take it easy out there, my friend. I generally leave my > >signal on for 4 to 5 seconds before merging over, and rarely do I ever > >encounter problems with impatient or irrational drivers. > > 4 to 5 *seconds*? Why so long? > > You run the risk of being mistaken for an old geezer who forgot and > left his blinker on. :) > -- > The MFFY Litmus Test: > If your maneuver forces another driver WHO HAS THE RIGHT-OF-WAY > to alter course or speed, what you did was probably MFFY. It's to warn drivers in the lanes, adjacent to the lane that I'm merging into, in case they don't see my blinker within the first 1 or 2 seconds. This, coupled with the fact that I won't change lanes into any gap that has the potential to be filled-in by drivers, adjacent to the lane that I want to merge into, has resulted in me never having to encounter a near-miss scenario (being side-swiped). Besides, I keep pace with the traffic in my lane, so this is never an issue. If my need to change lanes would result in me having to brake and slow down others behind me, then I'll just continue driving in my lane, until I find a wide enough gap to gently merge in. Besides, leaving your signal on for at least 3 seconds and then gently merging in will make you, in the eyes of others, appear to be a very safe driver, and you'll *definitely* avoid the attention of any CHP or other law enforcement agencies who may be within viewing distance of you. If there's nobody behind me, and the lane that I want to merge into has a long line of cars doing the same speed, I find that when I leave my signal on for 5 seconds, the vast majority of drivers will not only let me in, but actually slow down and back off...some even wave me in. I *always* wave as an appreciation of thanks, and almost always receive a friendly hand gesture in return. And yes, this is in fast- paced Southern California. It's when you leave your signal on for 8, 9, 10 seconds, that drivers start wondering whether or not you're even going to change lanes at all. -Brent
From: Steve Sobol on 12 Apr 2010 21:34 In article <95b5s59ll65hs5c5pq7r4njb3h31e1f3uc(a)4ax.com>, scottenaztlan(a)yahoo.com says... > >Your aversion to following The JLEDI Principle seems to be at odds with > >this statement. What's your reasoning behind it? > > "Just Let 'Em Do It" generally refers to allowing someone to do > something they shouldn't ordinarily be doing. Yielding the passing > lane to faster traffic does not fall into that category. Ok, cool. -- Steve Sobol, Victorville, California, USA sjsobol(a)JustThe.net
From: Steve Sobol on 12 Apr 2010 21:37
In article <6cb5s59mr4pgha3mfr8o0lhakl2eeppcsd(a)4ax.com>, scottenaztlan(a)yahoo.com says... > My SOP would prevent even this scenario. At t + 2 seconds after you > activated your turn signal, you should *already* be into your target > lane. Joe Dumbass behind you has no opportunity to change lanes, speed > up, or block you. I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. I think it is utterly, completely wrong that I have to change lanes within a couple microseconds of flipping on my turn signal. How much prior notice should be required? A second or two is plenty. But doing what you're talking about completely negates the value of signaling in the first place; I might as well not signal at all. I understand that that's the way it's done in California, but I don't have to like it. -- Steve Sobol, Victorville, California, USA sjsobol(a)JustThe.net |