From: Matthew Russotto on
In article <9hqos5pkj5qo891k847o7btsng41rsafie(a)4ax.com>,
Scott in SoCal <scottenaztlan(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>Last time on rec.autos.driving, russotto(a)grace.speakeasy.net (Matthew
>Russotto) said:
>
>>In article <ttbms5hg1s3vsvbe84i9lktteph1d008rs(a)4ax.com>,
>>Scott in SoCal <scottenaztlan(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>Last time on rec.autos.driving, russotto(a)grace.speakeasy.net (Matthew
>>>Russotto) said:
>>>
>>>>In article <bfv8s51hfqs00nqv5iqnmqfsuuuh26mm5u(a)4ax.com>,
>>>>Scott in SoCal <scottenaztlan(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>It's not pointless to obey the law. When you drive a "ticket magnet"
>>>>>sports car, why give some LEO who may be behind you a reason to pull
>>>>>you over and cite you?
>>>>
>>>>If you're going to obey the law, why buy a sports car in the first
>>>>place?
>>>
>>>Exactly! A sports car with 400HP is Prima Facie evidence of Intent!
>>>Intent to speed, intent to evade, and whatever other "crimes" the cop
>>>can dream up.
>>
>>Fortunately, mere intent isn't a crime just yet.
>
>No, it's not. But it's enough to get you pulled over and detained
>while they search and/or impound your car. The time you spend sitting
>on the curb and the money you spend getting your car out of the
>impound are pretty severe punishments for a non-crime.

Really? The cops pull you over for intent all the time?

That's odd. Because I really DO intend to speed pretty often, and so
far no cop has actually read my mind and pulled me over as a result.
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From: Matthew Russotto on
In article <06965ae4-87d3-415f-ae5d-74f13dc0e4fc(a)b6g2000yqi.googlegroups.com>,
gpsman <gpsman(a)driversmail.com> wrote:
>
>If motorists are constantly "cutting into" your following distance
>Occam's Razor suggests you're following too closely.

Hey GPSTroll, I think you've got got the blade and the handle switched
around on that razor.
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From: Nate Nagel on
On 04/20/2010 11:31 PM, Matthew Russotto wrote:
> In article<9hqos5pkj5qo891k847o7btsng41rsafie(a)4ax.com>,
> Scott in SoCal<scottenaztlan(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Last time on rec.autos.driving, russotto(a)grace.speakeasy.net (Matthew
>> Russotto) said:
>>
>>> In article<ttbms5hg1s3vsvbe84i9lktteph1d008rs(a)4ax.com>,
>>> Scott in SoCal<scottenaztlan(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> Last time on rec.autos.driving, russotto(a)grace.speakeasy.net (Matthew
>>>> Russotto) said:
>>>>
>>>>> In article<bfv8s51hfqs00nqv5iqnmqfsuuuh26mm5u(a)4ax.com>,
>>>>> Scott in SoCal<scottenaztlan(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It's not pointless to obey the law. When you drive a "ticket magnet"
>>>>>> sports car, why give some LEO who may be behind you a reason to pull
>>>>>> you over and cite you?
>>>>>
>>>>> If you're going to obey the law, why buy a sports car in the first
>>>>> place?
>>>>
>>>> Exactly! A sports car with 400HP is Prima Facie evidence of Intent!
>>>> Intent to speed, intent to evade, and whatever other "crimes" the cop
>>>> can dream up.
>>>
>>> Fortunately, mere intent isn't a crime just yet.
>>
>> No, it's not. But it's enough to get you pulled over and detained
>> while they search and/or impound your car. The time you spend sitting
>> on the curb and the money you spend getting your car out of the
>> impound are pretty severe punishments for a non-crime.
>
> Really? The cops pull you over for intent all the time?
>
> That's odd. Because I really DO intend to speed pretty often, and so
> far no cop has actually read my mind and pulled me over as a result.

I dunno, the type of car does seem to make a difference, although it
doesn't always make sense. e.g. in my experience, any "sporty" VW, e.g.
a GTI, Scirocco, or Corrado, attracts lots of attention from the local
constabulary. A Porsche 944, on the other hand, is damn near invisible.
Not that I'm complaining about the latter, mind you (except when it's
apparently invisible to other drivers as well.)

nate

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From: Harry K on
On Apr 20, 9:28 pm, Scott in SoCal <scottenazt...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> Last time on rec.autos.driving, Brent Jonas <brentrjo...(a)aol.com>
> said:
>
> >Why would someone intentionally cut me off, just for the sake
> >of it, when I'm already going the same speed as the driver ahead??
>
> Because that's the sort of thing that MFFYs do. In their minds there
> is probably some perceived advantage, such as getting 1 carlength
> ahead of their "opponents" in the Freeway Grand Prix.
>
> >You seem to think that I must get cut off, every 15 or so
> >seconds.
>
> Where did you get that silly idea?
>
> I merely said that if you leave a "proper" following distance, people
> WILL cut into that space, and sometimes they will hit their brakes
> before you have a chance to re-establish your space cushion. It may
> happen tomorrow, or it may happen a year from now, but chances are it
> will happen eventually.

So your solution is to tail gate to prevent it??

Harry K
From: Brent on
On 2010-04-21, Scott in SoCal <scottenaztlan(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> Last time on rec.autos.driving, russotto(a)grace.speakeasy.net (Matthew
> Russotto) said:
>
>>>>Fortunately, mere intent isn't a crime just yet.
>>>
>>>No, it's not. But it's enough to get you pulled over and detained
>>>while they search and/or impound your car. The time you spend sitting
>>>on the curb and the money you spend getting your car out of the
>>>impound are pretty severe punishments for a non-crime.
>>
>>Really? The cops pull you over for intent all the time?
>
> Well, not ostensibly.

> Instead, they trump up some other excuse to pull you over, because
> their "hunch" tells them you're "dirty" and if they can just get a
> look inside your car they'll find something that is actually
> incriminating.

I've been called 'paranoid' for saying that. In fact, I recall you being
one of them.

> I've told the story many times of the cop that pulled up next to me at
> a traffic light and warned me to "keep it under the speed limit" even
> though I had not been speeding. The fact is, I spotted that cop a
> couple of miles back and made DAMN SURE not to speed because I knew he
> would be watching me with a microscope. Bottom line, a bright yellow
> sports car "fits the profile" of a habitual speeder. A RADAR detector
> on your windshield does, too. So do stickers and a fart cannon on a
> Civic. Stuff like this is prima facie evidence of intent to violate
> the speed law as far as cops are concerned.

I've had my plain little mazda for driving chores for the last year. I
get almost no attention from cops now. I've had *ONE* cop zone in on me
a year of driving this car. I drive it exactly the same way I drive my
mustang. It's just another plain looking import sedan and cops do not
notice it at all.