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From: Chris Bartram on 24 Jan 2010 08:23 tim.... wrote: > "Chris Bartram" <news(a)delete-me.piglet-net.net> wrote in message > news:hjh82t$1ft$4(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> JNugent wrote: >>> Zaz wrote: >>> >>>> On some roundabouts the exit is two lanes which quickly merge into one. >>>> I've noticed some drivers going straight on like to, at the roundabout, >>>> use this road design to pointlessly overtake other drivers. >>> The overtaken often regard overtaking as pointless. >>> >> Indeed. But if it takes you another step to getting past a dawdler... > > I think you misunderstood the post that you replied to > > tim > > I don't think I did. My point was that dawdlers would not understand why you might overtake in order to get one position up a queue- if you repeat this svereal times you might get to the head of the queue, and clear road.
From: tim.... on 24 Jan 2010 08:36 "Chris Bartram" <news(a)delete-me.piglet-net.net> wrote in message news:hjhhkk$988$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > tim.... wrote: >> "Chris Bartram" <news(a)delete-me.piglet-net.net> wrote in message >> news:hjh82t$1ft$4(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>> JNugent wrote: >>>> Zaz wrote: >>>> >>>>> On some roundabouts the exit is two lanes which quickly merge into >>>>> one. I've noticed some drivers going straight on like to, at the >>>>> roundabout, use this road design to pointlessly overtake other >>>>> drivers. >>>> The overtaken often regard overtaking as pointless. >>>> >>> Indeed. But if it takes you another step to getting past a dawdler... >> >> I think you misunderstood the post that you replied to >> >> tim >> >> > I don't think I did. My point was that dawdlers would not understand why > you might overtake in order to get one position up a queue- if you repeat > this svereal times you might get to the head of the queue, and clear road. I agree, but that was implied by the post you replied to, you didn't need to make the point again tim
From: Steve Firth on 24 Jan 2010 08:36 Zaz <zaz(a)zaz.zaz> wrote: > On some roundabouts the exit is two lanes which quickly merge into one. > I've noticed some drivers going straight on like to, at the roundabout, > use this road design to pointlessly overtake other drivers. FSVO "pointless". I used an opportunity of a two lane entry/exit rounddabout to pass someone last week. As we exited the roundabout the driver tried to accelerate to prevent the overtake (nice man) but fortunately the Kia Shyteep that he was driving didn't have the ability to pull skin off custard. Lots of headlamp flashing from the overtaken party. Prior to the overtake I had followed him at a safe distance down eight miles of single track road which he negotiated at a maximum of 25mph, braking for every corner. Despite multiple passing places the dog in a manger driver never thought once to pull over and let the traffic behind past. In fact that's getting common on country roads. If I want to dawdle I'm happy to pull over and let people past. However the majority now seems to work on a "screw you, I'm in front" attitude and it's not confined to drivers. Massed gangs of cyclists take to using the lanes in the evenings in autumn and seem to think that it is hilarious to block following traffic, especially farm vehicles. So umm, pointless? No, not if it gets past the mobile road block and also puts one in a position to more easily pass other slow traffic.
From: Mr. Benn on 24 Jan 2010 08:41 JNugent <JN(a)noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote in news:X5WdnX4N27W9ssHWnZ2dnUVZ8mpi4p2d(a)pipex.net: > Mr. Benn wrote: > >> Chris Bartram <news(a)delete-me.piglet-net.net> wrote: >>> JNugent wrote: >>>> Zaz wrote: > >>>>> On some roundabouts the exit is two lanes which quickly merge into >>>>> one. I've noticed some drivers going straight on like to, at the >>>>> roundabout, use this road design to pointlessly overtake other >>>>> drivers. > >>>> The overtaken often regard overtaking as pointless. > >>> Indeed. But if it takes you another step to getting past a >>> dawdler... > >> But these systems get abused when stacked traffic is queuing and >> people use them to queue-jump. > > "Abused" means "used", does it? I retract my comment - it was probably wrong after second thoughts.
From: Mr. Benn on 24 Jan 2010 08:48
%steve%@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) wrote in news:1jcts5m.1bpsbk1d23xciN%% steve%@malloc.co.uk: > Massed gangs of cyclists take to using the lanes in > the evenings in autumn and seem to think that it is hilarious to block > following traffic, especially farm vehicles. I encountered a mass of those in Staines recently on a Sunday morning. There were about 10 of them, all dressed in matching lycra, cycling in tight formation. Despite the fact that most were keeping well to the left, there were two of them deliberately cycling near the centre line of the road making it difficult to overtake the whole pack. It was a case of passing all of them or none of them as they were all so close together. I did manage to get past them eventually only for me to have to stop at traffic lights which were on red. The herd of cyclists soon caught up at the red lights and you can probably guess when happened next! Hint: Red lights and cyclists. |