Overtaking at roundabouts
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From: Halmyre on 24 Jan 2010 11:49 In article <1jctxjf.1x7p77i1x871vgN%%steve%@malloc.co.uk>, %steve% @malloc.co.uk says... > > Chris Bartram <news(a)delete-me.piglet-net.net> wrote: > > > > > I'm an occaisional cyclist myself, and the ignorance of these twats was > > amazing. > > Same here. I'm not a pack animal so I don't join these large, > exclusively male, gangs and thus have no insight into what makes them > tick. However obstructign farm vehicles during the harvest seems to me > to be bloody minded to an extreme. I'm an experienced tractor driver and > I ahve helped mates in the area with their harvest. I've previously > posted about how the gangs of cyclists obstruct the passage of farm > vehicles which have to work to precise schedules, and also about the > charming behaviour of one group that decided it was really funny to > block my "gian planet killing 4x4" as I knocked off harvesting to go > home and get a meal. Again, on a fairly tight schedule and constrained > by the width of the road which the cyclsits filled from side to side. > The rear of the queue had three blokes who deliberately zig-zagged to > block an overtkae and who kept staring back at me doing the "coffee > beans" handshake and laughing at me. > > I couldn't understand the behaviour. I was keeping well back from them > but had used my indicator to let them know I wanted to pass. > > I do wonder at the mentality of the organisers of these events. We have > two problem areas. The A31 is used as a cycling racetrack most summer > evenings. This wouldn't be too bad except the organisers make very > little attempt to use marshalls and the cyclists simply don't look out > for traffic. They are so focussed on racing that they get their heads > down and pump along as fast as they can. The road narrows at one place > from two lanes to one lane with bollards to restrict the width. Cyclists > simpl swerve across the lanes, paying no attention to vehicles. At > roundabouts they sweep around, no indication of course, and swerve > across vehicles to exit. No doubt it anyone is ever injured the motorist > will be blamed. > > The other problem area is the use of narrow lanes which the organisers > seem to see as picturesque playgrounds, not the essential transport link > between fields, barns and grain dryers that they are. > I sincerely hope that no-one might consider this line of approach: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/tayside_and_central/8054215.stm It would of course be terrible if anyone followed this example, so I'm only putting it up here as a warning about what *not* to do. -- Halmyre
From: Mr Pounder on 24 Jan 2010 11:56 "Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message news:57-dnTfoWfEt-sHWnZ2dnUVZ8kKdnZ2d(a)bt.com... > > > "Mr Pounder" <MrPounder(a)RationalThought.com> wrote in message > news:xoZ6n.31013$Ym4.17200(a)text.news.virginmedia.com... >> >> "Zaz" <zaz(a)zaz.zaz> wrote in message >> news:b0K6n.1855$AJ7.149(a)newsfe17.ams2... >>> On some roundabouts the exit is two lanes which quickly merge into one. >>> I've noticed some drivers going straight on like to, at the roundabout, >>> use this road design to pointlessly overtake other drivers. >>> >>> I had to laugh at the one driver who tried that but didn't manage to >>> overtake the other vehicle who matched his speed perfectly. As the >>> exited >>> the roundabout they both ended up driving side by side for about 40 >>> yards. To add to the comedy when the road finally got too narrow they >>> both stopped at the same time. >> >> I always thought it was illegal to overtake on roundabouts. >> > That's another of those popular misconceptions, unless doing so would > endanger another road user obviously. Sorry about that Sir. I passed my test in 1970 when this was part of the HC. However I still do not overtake on roundabouts. Mr Pounder > >
From: Bill on 24 Jan 2010 12:09 In message <MPG.25c68a5995aedc6198969c(a)news.tesco.net>, Halmyre <nospam(a)this.address> writes > >I sincerely hope that no-one might consider this line of approach: > >http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/tayside_and_central/8054215.stm > >It would of course be terrible if anyone followed this example, so I'm >only putting it up here as a warning about what *not* to do. > I was involved in this race a couple of years ago, not racing I hasten to add! There was a lot of bad feeling locally, the roads are closed for most of the day, effectively imprisoning people in their own homes. A lot of motorists feel peeved at being held up for a few minutes by the odd cyclist in front of them, imagine how these people felt!! The guy that put the tacks down was caught and prosecuted, it didn't help his cause that one of the tyres punctured was on a police motorcycle. -- Bill
From: Mr. Benn on 24 Jan 2010 12:13 "Tim" <timdownie2003(a)obvious.yahoo.co.uk> wrote in news:7s3a3kFs9cU1(a)mid.individual.net: > Zaz wrote: >> On some roundabouts the exit is two lanes which quickly merge into >> one. I've noticed some drivers going straight on like to, at the >> roundabout, use this road design to pointlessly overtake other >> drivers. >> >> I had to laugh at the one driver who tried that but didn't manage to >> overtake the other vehicle who matched his speed perfectly. As the >> exited the roundabout they both ended up driving side by side for >> about 40 yards. To add to the comedy when the road finally got too >> narrow they both stopped at the same time. > > Whenever there are two lanes exiting a roundabout that reduce to one > lane, I think an *awful* lot of aggro could be alleviated by the use > of "Merge in turn" signs. This should apply to all cases where two lanes are merging into one.
From: Harry Bloomfield on 24 Jan 2010 15:36
Zaz formulated the question : > On some roundabouts the exit is two lanes which quickly merge into one. > I've noticed some drivers going straight on like to, at the roundabout, > use this road design to pointlessly overtake other drivers. > > I had to laugh at the one driver who tried that but didn't manage to > overtake the other vehicle who matched his speed perfectly. As the exited > the roundabout they both ended up driving side by side for about 40 > yards. To add to the comedy when the road finally got too narrow they > both stopped at the same time. Nothing at all wrong with using your vehicles speed and your own driving ability to get past, but you need to make a judgement of likely success before the pinch point and not carry the maneuver on too far. -- Regards, Harry (M1BYT) (L) http://www.ukradioamateur.co.uk |