From: Dave Plowman (News) on
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<d56dff30-09ca-4272-8eae-e85659be2045(a)z8g2000yqz.googlegroups.com>,
Doug <jagmad(a)riseup.net> wrote:
> > Does one risk a penalty if one parks immediately outside a friends
> > driveway in the road, but on the white line. (it's with the house
> > owners permission). There is still just enough room for a car to pass
> > by at that point.
> >
> No its OK if the solid white line demarcates a cycle lane. You can
> park on the lane indefinitely at your leisure in the knowledge that
> you won't get done by the police for it and especially if it is
> outside a line of shops which thrive on trade from motorists.

Great. At last some sense.

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From: Jeff on
Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
> In article
> <d56dff30-09ca-4272-8eae-e85659be2045(a)z8g2000yqz.googlegroups.com>,
> Doug <jagmad(a)riseup.net> wrote:
>>> Does one risk a penalty if one parks immediately outside a friends
>>> driveway in the road, but on the white line. (it's with the house
>>> owners permission). There is still just enough room for a car to pass
>>> by at that point.
>>>
>> No its OK if the solid white line demarcates a cycle lane. You can
>> park on the lane indefinitely at your leisure in the knowledge that
>> you won't get done by the police for it and especially if it is
>> outside a line of shops which thrive on trade from motorists.
>
> Great. At last some sense.
>

Not quite!! In this cast the white line has absolutely nothing to do
with a cycle lane!!

Jeff
From: Tony Dragon on
Doug wrote:
> On 19 June, 06:22, "john hamilton" <bluesta...(a)mail.invalid> wrote:
>> Where a road narrows to a single lane just before ending in a cul-de-sac
>> (dead end) there is a single *white* line painted on the road on the side of
>> the road where the houses are.
>>
>> The line is there presumably because if people park there, its very
>> difficult for cars to turn in and out of their driveways because the road is
>> so narrow.
>>
>> Does one risk a penalty if one parks immediately outside a friends driveway
>> in the road, but on the white line. (it's with the house owners permission).
>> There is still just enough room for a car to pass by at that point.
>>
> No its OK if the solid white line demarcates a cycle lane. You can
> park on the lane indefinitely at your leisure in the knowledge that
> you won't get done by the police for it and especially if it is
> outside a line of shops which thrive on trade from motorists.
>
> BTW, the way to avoid double reds is to park on the pavement inside
> them until the police politely move you on.
>
> Doug.

Yes Doug, there are often cycle lanes just before the end of a
residential cul-de-sac.
Try reading before posting.


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From: Mike Ross on
On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 13:55:26 +0100, Tony Dragon <tony.dragon(a)btinternet.com>
wrote:

>Doug wrote:
>> On 19 June, 06:22, "john hamilton" <bluesta...(a)mail.invalid> wrote:
>>> Where a road narrows to a single lane just before ending in a cul-de-sac
>>> (dead end) there is a single *white* line painted on the road on the side of
>>> the road where the houses are.

>> No its OK if the solid white line demarcates a cycle lane. You can
>> park on the lane indefinitely at your leisure in the knowledge that
>> you won't get done by the police for it and especially if it is
>> outside a line of shops which thrive on trade from motorists.

>Yes Doug, there are often cycle lanes just before the end of a
>residential cul-de-sac.
>Try reading before posting.

I absolutely take your point, but in fact there *are* such cycle lanes; the
*road* ends in a cul-de-sac next to a park or green space - but the cycle lane
carries on across the open space. At least from my experience in Cambridge it
can certainly happen; a road may be a dead-end for cars but a busy through-route
cycle lane.

Doug is often wrong, but this time he *could* be correct.

Mike
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From: Peter Hill on
On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 09:52:41 -0400, Mike Ross <mike(a)corestore.org>
wrote:

>On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 13:55:26 +0100, Tony Dragon <tony.dragon(a)btinternet.com>
>wrote:
>
>>Doug wrote:
>>> On 19 June, 06:22, "john hamilton" <bluesta...(a)mail.invalid> wrote:
>>>> Where a road narrows to a single lane just before ending in a cul-de-sac
>>>> (dead end) there is a single *white* line painted on the road on the side of
>>>> the road where the houses are.
>
>>> No its OK if the solid white line demarcates a cycle lane. You can
>>> park on the lane indefinitely at your leisure in the knowledge that
>>> you won't get done by the police for it and especially if it is
>>> outside a line of shops which thrive on trade from motorists.

I know you feel strongly about asserting your right of way, get a BMX
and go over the top.

>>Yes Doug, there are often cycle lanes just before the end of a
>>residential cul-de-sac.
>>Try reading before posting.
>
>I absolutely take your point, but in fact there *are* such cycle lanes; the
>*road* ends in a cul-de-sac next to a park or green space - but the cycle lane
>carries on across the open space. At least from my experience in Cambridge it
>can certainly happen; a road may be a dead-end for cars but a busy through-route
>cycle lane.
>
>Doug is often wrong, but this time he *could* be correct.
>
>Mike

The ones round here usually end in a sign

"CYCLISTS DISMOUNT"

No visible indication as to where one should remount or even where the
cycle route goes from there.

Though the most stupid one has vanished in the last 2 weeks. It was at
one end of a humpback bridge that has been replaced by a new road
bridge alongside. All the old bridge became pavement, now with a cycle
path. Sign appeared to require cyclists to get off to traverse 20 ft
of what was road to rejoin the new road.

As the cycle path approaching the bridge crosses 2 housing estate
entrances (both of which are built on old factory sites) and a factory
gate all of which require the cyclist to give way to vehicles turning
in/out I just use the new [1] road.

[1] circa 1970
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