From: MrBitsy on 18 Dec 2007 15:57 DavidR wrote: > "MrBitsy" <ray(a)nowhere.com> wrote >> >> Many cyclists, like pedestrians, seem oblivious in very simple ways >> to keep themselves safe - not obeying red lights for instance. > > Is this dangerous? Are there any figures to bear it out? Are you seriously suggestion it is safe to pass red traffic lights under normal conditions? -- MrBitsy
From: MrBitsy on 18 Dec 2007 15:59 DavidR wrote: > "MrBitsy" <ray(a)nowhere.com> wrote >> DavidR wrote: >>> >>> I offered some alternatives to be used according to circumstance. >>> You recommended an action to be used irrespective of circumstance. >>> BTW when did you last get on a bike? >> >> When did you last drive a lorry, bus or coach? > > I haven't attempted to instruct the operators of such conveyances how > to drive or even given any opinion about their behaviour, unlike > yourself,. so your question is completely irrelevant. Tell me, how > long since you last got on a bike? Until 18 months ago, I cycled to work and back for eight years. So, when did you last drive a bus, coach or lorry? -- MrBitsy
From: Conor on 18 Dec 2007 18:26 In article <c2acm3lgjot3kvh7a2e2fl175brqbcrhi6(a)4ax.com>, Tom Crispin says... > >I suspect there'd be no case made if it were a child cyclist but one > >made if it were an adult. > > If it were an adult cyclist I expect it would depend on the > circumstance. > > A shopper who rides a short distance on the pavement to access a bike > rack outside the bakery would be treated differently to a mid-twenties > courier who sends pedestrians diving for cover as he blasts his way > along a busy shopping pavement. Why? Both are illegal. > > I would welcome a judicial review to clarify the position. > Why? The law is perfectly clear. -- Conor I'm not prejudiced. I hate everyone equally.
From: Conor on 18 Dec 2007 18:26 In article <1i9a4ji.1k2k7rz6kh6wlN% notmyaddress.1.ekulnamsob(a)wronghead.com>, Ekul Namsob says... > > >> If he's turning right, he should be on the right hand side of the lane. Now > > >> who's stupid? > > >> > > > You, because apparently you haven't noticed how wide and high trucks > > > are. > > > > Wriggle, wriggle, wriggle all you like. You're wrong, he's wrong. > > Go and look at a lorry. Notice its size. > Go take a cycling proficiency test. Note where they tell you to place yourself when turning right. As a lorry driver, I'd rather have you on the right than hidden down the left. -- Conor I'm not prejudiced. I hate everyone equally.
From: Conor on 18 Dec 2007 18:26
In article <5sn141F19dq97U1(a)mid.individual.net>, Peter Clinch says... > Adrian wrote: > > Peter Clinch (Peter Clinch <p.j.clinch(a)dundee.ac.uk>) gurgled happily, > > sounding much like they were saying: > > > >> So let's say I'm at some lights, just behind the ASL and after I got > >> there an HGV pulls up behind me. The lights change but I stay put a > >> moment (maybe I'm turning right and the way isn't clear yet) > > > > Why aren't you signalling your intention to turn to other road users? > > Why are you assuming I'm not? The point remains that I can't magic away > the HGV behind me, though Brimstone seemed to think I should just avoid > it as it's bigger than me. > Exactly. If you're waiting to turn right in front of it, it's not going anywhere. OTOH, if you're unlucky to stick yourself in a blind spot on the left, you may get mown down. Just a note..cabs a feckin high now with the bottom of windscreens over 6ft off the floor so try and be a few feet in front of the lorry if you're directly in front of it. -- Conor I'm not prejudiced. I hate everyone equally. |