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From: Dave Larrington on 19 Dec 2007 04:06 In news:5YSdnZkXE_xGsPXanZ2dnUVZ8sGvnZ2d(a)bt.com, Brimstone <brimstone520-ng01(a)yahoo.co.uk> tweaked the Babbage-Engine to tell us: > As would not "driving Minis as fast I could around roundabouts" thus > giving the other drivers time to see you. In most of the Minis I've driven, that's about 7 mph -- Dave Larrington <http://www.legslarry.beerdrinkers.co.uk> If you want a bicycle, buy a bicycle. If you want something that folds, buy a deckchair.
From: Roger Thorpe on 19 Dec 2007 05:13 NM wrote: > Nonsense, everyone has a speed at which they feel comfortable, this will > vary from situation to situation and with the amount of other traffic, > at this speed they are aware and concentrating on what they are doing, > make them go slower and their mind wanders, out of boredom and their > attention drops. This is the least convincing argument that I've heard. I sometimes travel for eight hours or so at an average of 16 MPH with no trouble at all.... Roger thorpe
From: Adrian on 19 Dec 2007 05:20 Rob Morley (Rob Morley <nospam(a)ntlworld.com>) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: >> Does that ring any bells (like the ones that should be fitted to the >> bicycle but are not?) > What function do you think a bell serves, other than to warn a other road user > of the approach of a bicycle? None whatsoever. Same as a horn on a car doesn't. In fact the HC specifically says that's all it's for. It's still a legal requirement.
From: Roger Thorpe on 19 Dec 2007 05:28 Clive George wrote: > Safety when not obeying them isn't an absolute - just as you say safe > speed isn't the absolute prescribed figure. It depends on the > circumstances - what other vehicles/people are present, how much can you > see, how fast are they going. You're very keen on observing the hazards > and making an appropriate decision when it comes to speed limits - why > not apply this to other laws too? After all, it's easy to provide cases > where it is perfectly safe to ignore a red traffic light - and indeed, > it's even easy to provide them where it's not only safe, but doesn't > even slightly affect other road users. > > And that applies no matter what your mode of transport. Of course, the > fact that it's rather easier when you're small, manoeverable and have > better opportunities for observation could be a reason for considering > some modes rather more than others (and indeed the law recognises this > to an extent). > > cheers, > clive Yes, you can get away with it without reducing your own safety too much, but really, as a cyclist I'd rather you didn't do it. This sort of behaviour just erodes our status as legitimate road users and antagonises some motorists. Roger thorpe
From: Peter Clinch on 19 Dec 2007 05:31
Adrian wrote: [bike bell] > It's still a legal requirement. To be fitted at sale, not to be fitted in use. Pete. -- Peter Clinch Medical Physics IT Officer Tel 44 1382 660111 ext. 33637 Univ. of Dundee, Ninewells Hospital Fax 44 1382 640177 Dundee DD1 9SY Scotland UK net p.j.clinch(a)dundee.ac.uk http://www.dundee.ac.uk/~pjclinch/ |