From: JNugent on
Conor wrote:
> On 03/05/2010 14:57, JNugent wrote:
>> Conor wrote:
>>
>>> On 02/05/2010 23:42, JNugent wrote:
>>
>>>> So how - as the inevitable supplementary - does the amount (or the
>>>> existence) of the NMW affect your buying power?
>>>> It doesn't affect mine.
>>
>>> It doesn't affect it if you're paid above it however if you are on
>>> NMW, the annual increases have been above inflation.
>>
>> Since you aren't on it (and presumably haven't been on it), it seems odd
>> that you should cite it as a factor in your feeling of being "better
>> off" in fuel price terms.
>
> I didn't cite it as being a factor, that's something you've decided I
> did all on your own. I mentioned that NMW was one of the good things
> they brought in.

That's not correct. You cited the NMW as a factor in the relative price of fuel.
From: DavidR on
"JNugent" <JN(a)noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote
> DavidR wrote:
>> "JNugent" <JN(a)noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote
>>> DavidR wrote:
>
>>>> Though, I wouldn't be surprised if, out of the 10 peers, motoring taxes
>>>> overall, as a proportion of incomes, are well off the top rates.
>
>>> Whatever that means.
>
>> It means what it says.
>
> The meaning is nevertheless very well disguised.
>
>> (btw, motoring taxes aren't just the fuel tax.)
>
> Make no mistake: I'd rather see higher road tax and lower fuel tax. It
> would have all sorts of benefits.

Chorus ...there is no road tax.

Don't agree. Just a showroom tax (*) and fuel tax.

(*) that works like stamp duty.


From: JNugent on
DavidR wrote:
> "JNugent" <JN(a)noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote
>> DavidR wrote:
>>> "JNugent" <JN(a)noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote
>>>> DavidR wrote:
>>>>> Though, I wouldn't be surprised if, out of the 10 peers, motoring taxes
>>>>> overall, as a proportion of incomes, are well off the top rates.
>>>> Whatever that means.
>>> It means what it says.
>> The meaning is nevertheless very well disguised.
>>
>>> (btw, motoring taxes aren't just the fuel tax.)
>> Make no mistake: I'd rather see higher road tax and lower fuel tax. It
>> would have all sorts of benefits.
>
> Chorus ...there is no road tax.
>
> Don't agree. Just a showroom tax (*) and fuel tax.
>
> (*) that works like stamp duty.

We have that - it's called VAT, at 17.5% (a huge sum on even a cheap new car).

We do have road tax. Why some people insist on denying it is a mystery.
From: Conor on
On 03/05/2010 18:25, JNugent wrote:

>> And? As a percentage of income, its lower than it was 20 years ago.
>
> 20 years ago, we had the cheapest fuel in Europe, not the most expensive
> (once one disrgards Norway).

And how does that invalidate my statement?


--
Conor I'm not prejudiced. I hate everyone equally.
From: Conor on
On 03/05/2010 18:26, JNugent wrote:
> Conor wrote:
>> On 03/05/2010 14:57, JNugent wrote:
>>> Conor wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 02/05/2010 23:42, JNugent wrote:
>>>
>>>>> So how - as the inevitable supplementary - does the amount (or the
>>>>> existence) of the NMW affect your buying power?
>>>>> It doesn't affect mine.
>>>
>>>> It doesn't affect it if you're paid above it however if you are on
>>>> NMW, the annual increases have been above inflation.
>>>
>>> Since you aren't on it (and presumably haven't been on it), it seems odd
>>> that you should cite it as a factor in your feeling of being "better
>>> off" in fuel price terms.
>>
>> I didn't cite it as being a factor, that's something you've decided I
>> did all on your own. I mentioned that NMW was one of the good things
>> they brought in.
>
> That's not correct. You cited the NMW as a factor in the relative price
> of fuel.

Only in so much as to say that even someone on NMW is paying less as a
percentage of their income.

--
Conor I'm not prejudiced. I hate everyone equally.