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From: Brimstone on 2 May 2010 10:14 "Derek C" <del.copeland(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message news:4c7b381b-a1c8-4f10-869e-7f30cb3473b0(a)l32g2000yqm.googlegroups.com... > On May 2, 1:07 pm, FrengaX <hnkjqr...(a)sneakemail.com> wrote: >> On May 2, 6:33 am, Derek C <del.copel...(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote: >> >> > Over the last 13 years motorists and air travellers have been >> > persecuted and taxed to death by Gordon Brown and Co. Remember the >> > fuel duty escalator, attacks on 4x4 SUVs, special VED on new large >> > engined cars, Congestion Charges, Airport Passenger Duty, poorly >> > maintained potholed roads despite all the motoring taxes, etc, etc. >> > Many of these based on unproven Man Made Climate Change science. >> >> > I trust that you will remember all these when voting on Thursday. >> >> You think that somehow the Tories, if they get in, will reverse any of >> these? I think not. > > The Tories are more likely than (Nu) Labour to be motorist friendly. > No idea what the Lib-Dems would be like. > Errrr, who was it that introduced the fuel duty escalator?
From: McKevvy on 2 May 2010 11:13 On 2 May, 06:33, Derek C <del.copel...(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > Over the last 13 years motorists and air travellers have been > persecuted and taxed to death by Gordon Brown and Co. Remember the > fuel duty escalator, attacks on 4x4 SUVs, special VED on new large > engined cars, Congestion Charges, Airport Passenger Duty, poorly > maintained potholed roads despite all the motoring taxes, etc, etc. > Many of these based on unproven Man Made Climate Change science. > > I trust that you will remember all these when voting on Thursday. > There will be a lot of things that I will remember on Thursday. No matter which party/member that I vote for, I will always excercise my right to vote. But seeing as you posted this in a driving newsgroup I'd like to share the realities of life with you. I've been out of work since Nov 08. I recently found work at a distance of approx 25 miles away. The recession cleaned me out -living on the dole wasn't a choice for me - it was a safety net to hold me above true poverty. Anyway, the cost of me travelling from home to work (return) by public transport per day was £18 - and that involved putting the boss out of his way to pick me up at the trains station. Compare that to approx £10 by car in fuel alone. I was under the impression that public transport was meant to be cheaper because it was "greener" and therefore was encouraged by the govt - after all, doesn't every politician extole the virtues of public transport at every opportunity? So how can public transport be cheaper than car? Imagine if I gave a lift to someone from Markinch to Dundee by car (currently £14.20 rtn by train) and we split the cost in two? It would be nowhere near the price of the train. Nationalise the public transport network and make it *truly* public. McK.
From: JNugent on 2 May 2010 11:13 Derek C wrote: > Over the last 13 years motorists and air travellers have been > persecuted and taxed to death by Gordon Brown and Co. Remember the > fuel duty escalator, attacks on 4x4 SUVs, special VED on new large > engined cars, Congestion Charges, Airport Passenger Duty, poorly > maintained potholed roads despite all the motoring taxes, etc, etc. > Many of these based on unproven Man Made Climate Change science. > > I trust that you will remember all these when voting on Thursday. Particularly the "Congestion" Tax. The power to inpose it came from the Labour government, buyt whan Mad Ken introduced it at a pleb-dispersing �5, then increased it to �8, after saying - before an election - that he saw no reason to increase it - the government wrung their collective hands and said "Nowt to do wi'us, guv".
From: JNugent on 2 May 2010 11:14 Conor wrote: > On 02/05/2010 06:33, Derek C wrote: >> Over the last 13 years motorists and air travellers have been >> persecuted and taxed to death by Gordon Brown and Co. Remember the >> fuel duty escalator, attacks on 4x4 SUVs, special VED on new large >> engined cars, Congestion Charges, Airport Passenger Duty, poorly >> maintained potholed roads despite all the motoring taxes, etc, etc. >> Many of these based on unproven Man Made Climate Change science. >> >> I trust that you will remember all these when voting on Thursday. >> > > The potholes are down to the councils spending the money they're given > elsewhere. > > Fuel, as a percentage of income (thanks to the NMW brought in by Labour) > is cheaper than it was when I started driving 20 years ago, likewise > road tax. Do you get paid the National Minimum Wage, then?
From: JNugent on 2 May 2010 11:19
Brimstone wrote: > > > "Derek C" <del.copeland(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message > news:bd1985ca-b750-41df-bae7-1c2c72a50450(a)y36g2000yqm.googlegroups.com... >> On May 2, 8:41 am, "Brimstone" <brimst...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> "Derek C" <del.copel...(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message >>> >>> news:bbb423ba-85fd-4acc-bb9d-9360dcee38cb(a)i10g2000yqh.googlegroups.com... >>> >>> >>> > Over the last 13 years motorists and air travellers have been >>> > persecuted and taxed to death by Gordon Brown and Co. Remember the >>> > fuel duty escalator, >>> >>> Introduced by the Tories and removed by Labour. >> >> Not always implemented by Nu Labour because the Government were >> frightened of riots. It has been this year and in a staged manner. > > Show me where the Fuel Duty Escalator has been reintroduced. Three separate 1p a litre (4.545p a gallon) increases in the tax, plus 17.5% on top of each of those in VAT, inside a year. Let's see - in a hypothetical case where fuel was previously costing �1 a litre (�4.55 a gallon), that would raise the price to �1.03525 a litre (�4.71 a gallon). Does that not count, simply because the government - dishonestly have not applied the name to it? |