From: Adrian on 24 Jun 2010 11:15 "mileburner" <mileburner(a)btinternet.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: >>> How often do any witnesses note the make or model if the bike? This is >>> usually quite clearly displayed on the frame of the bike and would >>> narrow any suspect down quite considerably. >> Is it clearly displayed, front and rear, in letters 80mm x 50mm in a >> deliberately clear font in a deliberately high-contrast colour scheme? > Is that a rhetorical question? Not at all. Merely wondering if there was any comparison in legibility between the make & model badging on a bike and registration plates. Since it doesn't appear to be - nor is there any way to convert "A purple Apollo PieceOfCrapBSO" (always assuming the bike bears a make and model at all) to a name and address with any degree of reliability - it was a bit of a silly point to raise, wasn't it?
From: NM on 24 Jun 2010 12:14 On 24 June, 13:20, Adrian <toomany2...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Squashme <squas...(a)gmail.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like they > were saying: > > >> >> People who do this kind of thing should be very severely punished. > >> > "Low fines, the reluctance of motorists to stop and, in some cases, > >> > lax design could be behind the rising death and injury toll, it is > >> > feared. > > >> > "We live in a society where everyone is in a rush and one where > >> > people see the chances of getting caught as minimal," said Andrew > >> > Howard, head of road safety at the AA." > >> Yes, it's almost certainly the motorist's fault here... > > >> You cretin. > > Just providing the usual necessary balance. > > It's certainly true that there seems to be an unwritten rule that says at > least one muppet needs to post a reply that shows that they haven't > actually bothered to read the article even in passing - but that had > already been met by NM. That's good, gives you something else to whinge about.
From: mileburner on 24 Jun 2010 12:52 "Adrian" <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:88hb4oFjraU2(a)mid.individual.net... > "mileburner" <mileburner(a)btinternet.com> gurgled happily, sounding much > like they were saying: > >>>> How often do any witnesses note the make or model if the bike? This is >>>> usually quite clearly displayed on the frame of the bike and would >>>> narrow any suspect down quite considerably. > >>> Is it clearly displayed, front and rear, in letters 80mm x 50mm in a >>> deliberately clear font in a deliberately high-contrast colour scheme? > >> Is that a rhetorical question? > > Not at all. > > Merely wondering if there was any comparison in legibility between the > make & model badging on a bike and registration plates. Make and model badges are there for advertising, surely? Presumably the manufacturer/importer wants the name to be seen. Pehaps it is just me being a bit of a bike spotter but I tend to look at the bike to see what it is. > Since it doesn't appear to be - nor is there any way to convert "A purple > Apollo PieceOfCrapBSO" (always assuming the bike bears a make and model > at all) to a name and address with any degree of reliability - it was a > bit of a silly point to raise, wasn't it? Is that a rhetorical question? The point was, that even if you *could* convert the name and model of the bike into an address, it would be pretty pointless if you did not bother to note the name and model of the bike. However, tracing a person via a registration name and address is not the only way to trace someone. Registrations help, especially for petty matters, FPNs etc. as they speed up the process, but for more serious crime (such as running over someone and putting them in hospital) I would have thought that the police would be able to track/trace and eventually apprehend a criminal without necessarily being totally reliant on a registration plate to lead them there. Unless that is, the police now *only* rely on registration plates to enable them to nick villains. What next? Registration plates for everyone including pedestrians? Kids going to school? Blokes staggering home from the pub? Mobility scooters? Dogs?
From: Iain on 24 Jun 2010 13:08 "Squashme" <squashme(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:7f986c47-a848-4f05-8ca1-050c290301c2(a)d16g2000yqb.googlegroups.com... > On 24 June, 10:37, "Brimstone" <brimst...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >> "Partac" <petemac9...(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message >> >> news:88gmlfFrphU1(a)mid.individual.net...>http://www.thamesvalley.police.uk/newsevents/newsevents-pressreleases... >> >> People who do this kind of thing should be very severely punished. > > http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/3242048/Zebra-crossing-road-deaths-treble.html > > "Low fines, the reluctance of motorists to stop and, in some cases, > lax design could be behind the rising death and injury toll, it is > feared. > > "We live in a society where everyone is in a rush and one where people > see the chances of getting caught as minimal," said Andrew Howard, > head of road safety at the AA." I would disagree with that. There is a very strong tendency now for pedestrians not to take the necessary care even when using crossings. There is very little discipline, ie. the old-fashioned 'Stop, look and listen'. People seem to assume that the traffic will stop for them. This is very noticeable particularly at pedestrian crossings. Iain
From: JNugent on 24 Jun 2010 13:44
Iain wrote: > "Squashme" <squashme(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > news:7f986c47-a848-4f05-8ca1-050c290301c2(a)d16g2000yqb.googlegroups.com... >> On 24 June, 10:37, "Brimstone" <brimst...(a)hotmail.com> wrote: >>> "Partac" <petemac9...(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message >>> >>> news:88gmlfFrphU1(a)mid.individual.net...>http://www.thamesvalley.police.uk/newsevents/newsevents-pressreleases... >>> >>> >>> People who do this kind of thing should be very severely punished. >> >> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/3242048/Zebra-crossing-road-deaths-treble.html >> >> >> "Low fines, the reluctance of motorists to stop and, in some cases, >> lax design could be behind the rising death and injury toll, it is >> feared. >> >> "We live in a society where everyone is in a rush and one where people >> see the chances of getting caught as minimal," said Andrew Howard, >> head of road safety at the AA." > > I would disagree with that. There is a very strong tendency now for > pedestrians not to take the necessary care even when using crossings. > There is very little discipline, ie. the old-fashioned 'Stop, look and > listen'. People seem to assume that the traffic will stop for them. > This is very noticeable particularly at pedestrian crossings. For the few remaining zebra crossings (increasingly scrapped because they don't cause enough delay to traffic), that is exactly what should happen (the laws of physics permitting). |