Pedestrian injured in hit and run incident(Doug Mode)
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From: The Medway Handyman on 24 Jun 2010 18:14 mileburner wrote: > "Adrian" <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > news:88hb4oFjraU2(a)mid.individual.net... >> "mileburner" <mileburner(a)btinternet.com> gurgled happily, sounding >> much like they were saying: >> >>>>> How often do any witnesses note the make or model if the bike? >>>>> This is usually quite clearly displayed on the frame of the bike >>>>> and would narrow any suspect down quite considerably. >> >>>> Is it clearly displayed, front and rear, in letters 80mm x 50mm in >>>> a deliberately clear font in a deliberately high-contrast colour >>>> scheme? >> >>> Is that a rhetorical question? >> >> Not at all. >> >> Merely wondering if there was any comparison in legibility between >> the make & model badging on a bike and registration plates. > > Make and model badges are there for advertising, surely? Presumably > the manufacturer/importer wants the name to be seen. Pehaps it is > just me being a bit of a bike spotter but I tend to look at the bike > to see what it is. One step down the social scale from a train spotter. What a sad git you are. >> Since it doesn't appear to be - nor is there any way to convert "A >> purple Apollo PieceOfCrapBSO" (always assuming the bike bears a make >> and model at all) to a name and address with any degree of >> reliability - it was a bit of a silly point to raise, wasn't it? > > Is that a rhetorical question? > > The point was, that even if you *could* convert the name and model of > the bike into an address, it would be pretty pointless if you did not > bother to note the name and model of the bike. However, tracing a > person via a registration name and address is not the only way to > trace someone. Registrations help, especially for petty matters, FPNs > etc. as they speed up the process, but for more serious crime (such > as running over someone and putting them in hospital) I would have > thought that the police would be able to track/trace and eventually > apprehend a criminal without necessarily being totally reliant on a > registration plate to lead them there. > Unless that is, the police now *only* rely on registration plates to > enable them to nick villains. > > What next? Registration plates for everyone including pedestrians? > Kids going to school? Blokes staggering home from the pub? Mobility > scooters? Dogs? Just dangerous law breaking cyclists. -- Dave - intelligent enough to realise that a push bike is a kid's toy, not a viable form of transport.
From: Adrian on 24 Jun 2010 18:19 "The Medway Handyman" <davidlang(a)no-spam-blueyonder.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: >>> Not true, the type of vehicle is a major factor, it was being used on >>> the pavement >> No it wasn't. Try reading the link given. > It was being used on a pedestrian crossing - thats all right then. In the same way as your van gets used on pedestrian crossings.
From: Steve Firth on 24 Jun 2010 19:25 Squashme <squashme(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Oh no, I forgot, it's Roadaholics Unanimous, isn't it? Still they have > trouble seeing things too. Distracted by the bell, blinded by the sun, > important incoming call ... Have you forgotten what the thread you are posting to is about? Or are you just off on one of your insane and irrelevant rants?
From: mileburner on 25 Jun 2010 02:39 "Iain" <spam(a)smaps.net> wrote in message news:88hnl1F4q1U1(a)mid.individual.net... > "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote in message > news:4c23a210$0$15133$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... >> "Iain" <spam(a)smaps.net> wrote in message > >>> I would disagree with that. There is a very strong tendency now for >>> pedestrians not to take the necessary care even when using crossings. >>> There is very little discipline, ie. the old-fashioned 'Stop, look and >>> listen'. People seem to assume that the traffic will stop for them. >>> This is very noticeable particularly at pedestrian crossings. >> >> Well, as most pedestrian crossings have traffic lights to stop the >> traffic (except for the few remaining Zebra crossings with orange beacons >> at the sides), I think its a fair assumption that the cars will have >> stopped at the red light - best to make sure though! There is a light controlled crossing near me where drivers regularly fail to to at the red light and it is in a 40 mph limit (so traffic can be moving at speeds up to about 50ish). I have consequently drummed into my kids to, always check the traffic even if the man is green, especially since I had to grab one of them to stop crossing the road when the man was green but a car was approaching at speed and didn't stop anyway. > There are still a large number of zebra crossings in London - one almost > outside my door. It is not unusual to see someone walking up to the > kerb-edge and just walk straight onto the crossing; no pause to see if > there's an appropriate gap. I find that sometimes a couple of cars may go > by before one stops for me when I wait at the kerb. And a small waive of > acknowledgement or a mouthed 'Thanks' to the first car that stops does not > go amiss either. It certainly seems to be the younger age range (even > including school age) that do not bother to stop and at least pause. There is also a crossing patrol "lolipop man" locally who sees it as his duty to dart into the road completely unannounced and present his "Stop" sign. He does not wait for a gap in the traffic, he does not even wait for there to be somone wanting to cross the road. Instead he will jump in front of cars and ask the pedestrians on the pavement if they want to cross. And they do not always want to.
From: bod on 25 Jun 2010 02:41
mileburner wrote: > "Iain" <spam(a)smaps.net> wrote in message > news:88hnl1F4q1U1(a)mid.individual.net... >> "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote in message >> news:4c23a210$0$15133$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com... >>> "Iain" <spam(a)smaps.net> wrote in message >>>> I would disagree with that. There is a very strong tendency now for >>>> pedestrians not to take the necessary care even when using crossings. >>>> There is very little discipline, ie. the old-fashioned 'Stop, look and >>>> listen'. People seem to assume that the traffic will stop for them. >>>> This is very noticeable particularly at pedestrian crossings. >>> Well, as most pedestrian crossings have traffic lights to stop the >>> traffic (except for the few remaining Zebra crossings with orange beacons >>> at the sides), I think its a fair assumption that the cars will have >>> stopped at the red light - best to make sure though! > > There is a light controlled crossing near me where drivers regularly fail to > to at the red light and it is in a 40 mph limit (so traffic can be moving at > speeds up to about 50ish). I have consequently drummed into my kids to, > always check the traffic even if the man is green, especially since I had to > grab one of them to stop crossing the road when the man was green but a car > was approaching at speed and didn't stop anyway. > >> There are still a large number of zebra crossings in London - one almost >> outside my door. It is not unusual to see someone walking up to the >> kerb-edge and just walk straight onto the crossing; no pause to see if >> there's an appropriate gap. I find that sometimes a couple of cars may go >> by before one stops for me when I wait at the kerb. And a small waive of >> acknowledgement or a mouthed 'Thanks' to the first car that stops does not >> go amiss either. It certainly seems to be the younger age range (even >> including school age) that do not bother to stop and at least pause. > > There is also a crossing patrol "lolipop man" locally who sees it as his > duty to dart into the road completely unannounced and present his "Stop" > sign. He does not wait for a gap in the traffic, he does not even wait for > there to be somone wanting to cross the road. Instead he will jump in front > of cars and ask the pedestrians on the pavement if they want to cross. And > they do not always want to. > > > > Is his name Doug, by any chance? Bod |