From: marpate1 on
Hi all,

Wonder if you could offer me a little advice?

My 306 estate (1.9TD 1997) has a violent shake at around 40-50mph. To
try and fix it, I have had all wheels balanced and have just changed
both front wishbones as the rear bushes were worn - this has made
little difference.

I did notice when on axle stands, in 5th at tickover that the near
side tyre seems to shimmy side to side. There's no play at all in the
bearings or ball joints and the spare does the same. Any ideas why
this could be and whether this is likely to be the cause of the shake?

And advice gratefully received!

Kind regards,
Mark

From: Mrcheerful on

"marpate1" <marpate1(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:0bdbfc9f-1267-4235-8d07-305b2751ea5c(a)6g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
> Hi all,
>
> Wonder if you could offer me a little advice?
>
> My 306 estate (1.9TD 1997) has a violent shake at around 40-50mph. To
> try and fix it, I have had all wheels balanced and have just changed
> both front wishbones as the rear bushes were worn - this has made
> little difference.
>
> I did notice when on axle stands, in 5th at tickover that the near
> side tyre seems to shimmy side to side. There's no play at all in the
> bearings or ball joints and the spare does the same. Any ideas why
> this could be and whether this is likely to be the cause of the shake?
>
> And advice gratefully received!
>
> Kind regards,
> Mark
>
>

engine mounts maybe,
take a look at the driveshaft while it is spinning, a faulty cv joint can
cause this sort of problem


From: Duncan Wood on
On Sun, 30 May 2010 17:33:50 +0100, marpate1 <marpate1(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Wonder if you could offer me a little advice?
>
> My 306 estate (1.9TD 1997) has a violent shake at around 40-50mph. To
> try and fix it, I have had all wheels balanced and have just changed
> both front wishbones as the rear bushes were worn - this has made
> little difference.
>
> I did notice when on axle stands, in 5th at tickover that the near
> side tyre seems to shimmy side to side. There's no play at all in the
> bearings or ball joints and the spare does the same. Any ideas why
> this could be and whether this is likely to be the cause of the shake?
>
> And advice gratefully received!
>
> Kind regards,
> Mark
>

If it's actually shimmying then there's run out in the hub, but normally
it's just an optical illusion from the tyre pattern, It's more likely to
be a driveshaft .
From: marpate1 on
On May 30, 5:43 pm, "Mrcheerful" <nbk...(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote:
> "marpate1" <marpa...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
>
> news:0bdbfc9f-1267-4235-8d07-305b2751ea5c(a)6g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > Hi all,
>
> > Wonder if you could offer me a little advice?
>
> > My 306 estate (1.9TD 1997) has a violent shake at around 40-50mph. To
> > try and fix it, I have had all wheels balanced and have just changed
> > both front wishbones as the rear bushes were worn - this has made
> > little difference.
>
> > I did notice when on axle stands, in 5th at tickover that the near
> > side tyre seems to shimmy side to side. There's no play at all in the
> > bearings or ball joints and the spare does the same. Any ideas why
> > this could be and whether this is likely to be the cause of the shake?
>
> > And advice gratefully received!
>
> > Kind regards,
> > Mark
>
> engine mounts maybe,
> take a look at the driveshaft while it is spinning, a faulty cv joint can
> cause this sort of problem

Many thanks, I couldn't feel any play in the engine mounts and it
doesn't seem to move too much when taking up drive - but I'm not going
to discount it at this stage.

I will take a look at the driveshafts tomorrow when I repeat the test
- is there anything that can be testing statically (play in the CV
etc)?

Cheers,
Mark
From: marpate1 on
On May 30, 5:58 pm, "Duncan Wood" <nntpn...(a)dmx512.co.uk> wrote:
> On Sun, 30 May 2010 17:33:50 +0100, marpate1 <marpa...(a)yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> > Hi all,
>
> > Wonder if you could offer me a little advice?
>
> > My 306 estate (1.9TD 1997) has a violent shake at around 40-50mph. To
> > try and fix it, I have had all wheels balanced and have just changed
> > both front wishbones as the rear bushes were worn - this has made
> > little difference.
>
> > I did notice when on axle stands, in 5th at tickover that the near
> > side tyre seems to shimmy side to side. There's no play at all in the
> > bearings or ball joints and the spare does the same. Any ideas why
> > this could be and whether this is likely to be the cause of the shake?
>
> > And advice gratefully received!
>
> > Kind regards,
> > Mark
>
> If it's actually shimmying then there's run out in the hub, but normally  
> it's just an optical illusion from the tyre pattern, It's more likely to  
> be a driveshaft .

You could well be right that it's an optical illusion. I'm tempted to
get a dial gauge to check anyway (unless there's a method to do this
without one).

Cheers,
Mark