From: hancock4 on
On Apr 6, 3:22 pm, gpsman <gps...(a)driversmail.com> wrote:

> > There is not a 'legal'  _expectation_   of privacy.  Rather, there is
> > a very reasonable desire for privacy.
>
> 'Public' and 'private' are antonyms, so you'll have to explain what
> about that desire you find "very reasonable".

Your statement is not correct.

There are many shades of gray between public and private.
From: Otto Yamamoto on
On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 10:49:12 -0700, Honorable Mention wrote:

> It was nothing but a perfect opportunity for the socialists to
> consolidate power.

What? What 'socialists'? Care to name names?



--
Otto Yamamoto
From: gpsman on
On Apr 6, 5:02 pm, hanco...(a)bbs.cpcn.com wrote:
> On Apr 6, 3:22 pm, gpsman <gps...(a)driversmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > There is not a 'legal'  _expectation_   of privacy.  Rather, there is
> > > a very reasonable desire for privacy.
>
> > 'Public' and 'private' are antonyms, so you'll have to explain what
> > about that desire you find "very reasonable".
>
> Your statement is not correct.

"Nyuh-uh" is considered by many to be a sparkling refutation, but I am
not among them.

> There are many shades of gray between public and private.

More than the 0 you have specified here?
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- gpsman
From: Honorable Mention on
On Apr 6, 2:04 pm, Brent <tetraethylleadREMOVET...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 2010-04-06, Honorable Mention <skycityret...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > IMHO, the real goal of WWI was to destroy the American way of life.
> > Before WWI we were much freer.  Afterwards, we had an income tax and a
> > central bank...both of which have wreaked havoc on our freedom and
> > money.
>
> The 19teens were a real turning point. A list of what comes from
> 1913-1919:
> 1) Federal Reserve. (which enables the wars)
> 2) Income tax.
> 3) War on drugs.(first drug laws passed)
> 4) Prohibition of alcohol.
> 5) Direct election of senators.
>
> > The whole premise of why we were involved in WWI didn't make
> > sense, and that was why.  It was nothing but a perfect opportunity for
> > the socialists to consolidate power.  
>
> The progressives... progressing towards total government.
>
> > If not for what happened in WWI,
> > the depression would have never happened...and yes, Brent, I am a big
> > fan of the site you linked to earlier in this post though I disagree
> > with them from time to time.
>
> Over time I find myself disagreeing less and less.
>
> > You must have to be pretty strong willed
> > expressing libertarian views there in the furthest left corner of the
> > west coast.  Funny thing is I have to be just as strong willed here in
> > the heart of Republican territory.
>
> I'm not on the west coast, but one-party c(r)ook county IL
> .

For some reason I was under the impression you lived in San Francisco
(or at least used to). Maybe I have you mixed up with somebody else.
From: Honorable Mention on
On Apr 6, 5:24 pm, Otto Yamamoto <o...(a)yamamoto.cc> wrote:
> On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 10:49:12 -0700, Honorable Mention wrote:
> > It was nothing but a perfect opportunity for the socialists to
> > consolidate power.
>
> What? What 'socialists'? Care to name names?
>
> --
> Otto Yamamoto

They were nicknamed the "progressives" and the "progressive
movement"...headed by the likes of Teddy Roosevelt and Woodrow
Wilson. Remember it had been over 60 years since Marx wrote his book.