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From: Honorable Mention on 6 Apr 2010 22:34 On Apr 6, 10:08 pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > On Tue, 6 Apr 2010 18:40:44 -0700 (PDT), Honorable Mention > <skycityret...(a)gmail.com> wrote in misc.transport.road: > > >On Apr 6, 5:24 pm, Otto Yamamoto <o...(a)yamamoto.cc> wrote: > >> On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 10:49:12 -0700, Honorable Mention wrote: > >> > It was nothing but a perfect opportunity for the socialists to > >> > consolidate power. > > >> What? What 'socialists'? Care to name names? > > >> -- > >> Otto Yamamoto > > >They were nicknamed the "progressives" and the "progressive > >movement"...headed by the likes of Teddy Roosevelt and Woodrow > >Wilson. Remember it had been over 60 years since Marx wrote his book. > > Wilson and TR were very dissimilar. Neither had anything to do with > socialism, however. I realize that today's GOP does not want to be > reminded of this, but Lincoln and TR were Republicans. Wilson was a > racist Southerner of the old style Democrats, the ones that the GOP took > with their Southern Strategy. Republicans used to be more the socialist-type party historically...the "conservative" aspects of the Republican party emerged in the late 20th century as the Dixiecrats began to drift to the Republican party. Realize the Republicans were by and large brought to power by Lincoln...a fella that could care less about "local control" and "small government". That did not mean, however, that progressive ideas were not sprinkled into both parties. In Wilson's memoirs, he did regret his decisions he made. The sharp distinctions between the parties were actually the most pronounced beginning in the 1980's.
From: Otto Yamamoto on 6 Apr 2010 23:55 On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 18:40:44 -0700, Honorable Mention wrote: > They were nicknamed the "progressives" and the "progressive > movement"...headed by the likes of Teddy Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson. > Remember it had been over 60 years since Marx wrote his book. Teddy Roosevelt and Woodrow Wilson were socialists? Thx for the tip, there, I was unaware. -- Otto Yamamoto
From: rshersh on 7 Apr 2010 19:12 On Apr 6, 10:08 pm, Free Lunch <lu...(a)nofreelunch.us> wrote: > On Tue, 6 Apr 2010 18:40:44 -0700 (PDT), Honorable Mention > <skycityret...(a)gmail.com> wrote in misc.transport.road: > > >On Apr 6, 5:24 pm, Otto Yamamoto <o...(a)yamamoto.cc> wrote: > >> On Tue, 06 Apr 2010 10:49:12 -0700, Honorable Mention wrote: > >> > It was nothing but a perfect opportunity for the socialists to > >> > consolidate power. > > >> What? What 'socialists'? Care to name names? > > >> -- > >> Otto Yamamoto > > >They were nicknamed the "progressives" and the "progressive > >movement"...headed by the likes of Teddy Roosevelt and Woodrow > >Wilson. Remember it had been over 60 years since Marx wrote his book. > > Wilson and TR were very dissimilar. Neither had anything to do with > socialism, however. I realize that today's GOP does not want to be > reminded of this, but Lincoln and TR were Republicans. Wilson was a > racist Southerner of the old style Democrats, the ones that the GOP took > with their Southern Strategy. Wilson was a racist and he was born in Staunton, VA, but he was President of Princeton Univ, and Gov of NJ. I sincerely doubt if you can judge him by todays standards
From: Otto Yamamoto on 7 Apr 2010 19:13 On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 12:43:08 +0000, Brent wrote: > Only dissimilar from a two-party frame of reference. From a freedom vs. > the total state frame of reference they aren't all that far part. It's really only a matter of what the 'parties' see as necessary to maintain the survival of the State. Basically what they feel as important to give lip service to. -- Otto Yamamoto
From: Nate Nagel on 7 Apr 2010 20:43
On 04/07/2010 06:58 PM, gpsman wrote: > I served 13 years, US Army, maintained MOS 11B and 13F, how about you? I think you're lying. You don't have what it takes to serve a badly mixed martini. You're an embarassment. nate -- replace "roosters" with "cox" to reply. http://members.cox.net/njnagel |