From: GT on
There seems to be a recent trend (last few years) to take a 3 metre stretch
of town road and narrow it to a single lane, putting a give way triangle on
one side of the obstruction, giving priority to traffic in one direction.
Not sure how this helps congestion or traffic flow, or reduce speed etc etc,
but they are common - do you know the kind of give way thing that I'm
talking about?

Well, I was driving towards one yesterday. This particular one had a square
speed bump/pillow/cushion in the middle. my car grounds when I straddle
them, so unless I'm able to go between them, I have to slow down to about
10-15mph.

I was travelling in the direction where I needed to yield to traffic coming
towards me. As I approached the obstacle, there was no traffic coming the
other way (clear view of the road for far enough), so I pulled onto the
other side of the road to drive through the give way part and slowed down to
my 10mph limit. Just as I did that, a car arrived at a side road, about 10
yards after the give way bit. He turned left into the main road and ended up
having to slow down at the give way part just as I exited it. He did come
out of the junction a bit too quickly, but the road was clear and visibility
is good. Neither of us were going anywhere near the 30 limit, but as it
takes me a few seconds to get through the 3 metre stretch of lumpy,
undertray-smashing road, I ended up holding him up (momentarilly)

Who had the priority?? I would think the person on the main road has the
priority because when turning into the main road, you are supposed to look
both ways to ensure it is clear before proceeding. He didn't look left, or
at least he didn't see or chose to ignore me. Had there been a collission
and insurance involvement, I wouldn't have a leg to stand on - I drove
through the give way part when a car was coming the other way, only it
wasn't coming the other way when I started - it wasn't even on the same
road!

I know this doesn't really matter, but just wondered what everyone thinks...


From: Nick Finnigan on
GT wrote:
>
> Who had the priority??

You give way when crossing the give way lines. To any traffic which is on
the main road just before you cross the lines.
From: Nick Finnigan on
Chelsea Tractor Man wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 17:45:23 +0100, Nick Finnigan wrote:
>
>> You give way when crossing the give way lines. To any traffic which is on
>> the main road just before you cross the lines.
>
> I find there are also dilemmas at mini roundabouts, who goes first in a
> "Mexican stand off"?

IME the alert driver in an older car which has decent acceleration.
In principle, all (car) drivers can safely set off at once.
From: Nick Finnigan on
Chelsea Tractor Man wrote:
> On Tue, 27 Jul 2010 22:00:42 +0100, Nick Finnigan wrote:
>
>> In principle, all (car) drivers can safely set off at once.
>
> not on the really small ones, the one in Bexley village could not contain
> three vehicles at the same time.

Streetview shows a big red bus about to take the last exit at a mini
roundabout by the George, which is large enough for 5 cars. The one on
Hurst road would be trickier, but could still get 3 cars around it.
From: Nick Finnigan on
Chelsea Tractor Man wrote:
> On Wed, 28 Jul 2010 20:23:47 +0100, Nick Finnigan wrote:
>
>> Streetview shows a big red bus about to take the last exit at a mini
>> roundabout by the George,
>
> traffic has to hold back from the junction for the buses to get round, you
> could park five cars no doubt, you wouldn't want five moving cars!

Since there are not 5 entries, I don't want five moving cars; just to
point out that there is (as always) room for 3 moving cars.