From: Nick Finnigan on
Mortimer wrote:
> I'm starting to doubt that I understand the highway code correctly.
>
> Suppose you have a car on a major road, indicating to turn left into a
> side road. Another car is approaching from the opposite direction and is
> indicating to turn right, across the traffic, into that same side road.
>
> Who has priority over whom?

Nobody. Neither by law nor in the highway code.

> But this morning I (car A) was waiting to turn left, in a long stream of
> traffic. An oncoming car (C) was waiting in the middle of the road. Both
> of us were indicating correctly. The straight-on car in front of me (B),
> that had previously been blocking me from turning left,

... and presumably needlessly blocking oncoming traffic from turning, and
may also have been hiding your indicator from that oncoming traffic. Unless
you were far enough back to allow B to reverse and let C turn.
From: JNugent on
mileburner wrote:
> Mortimer wrote:
>> I'm starting to doubt that I understand the highway code correctly.
>
> In a not too dissimilar situation, a short time ago I approached a cross
> roads junction from the minor road going straight ahead. At the same time, a
> taxi arrived at the junction from the opposite direction and he was turning
> right. There was no traffic on the major road and we both pulled out
> together. The taxi driver started to pull across in front of me expecting me
> to give way, but because I dispise taxi drivers, I hosed him out and took my
> right of way anyway. Had it been anyone else I would have course done the
> polite thing at let them go.
>
> As we passed sides, he hurled some verbal abuse at me for not letting him
> go. But AIUI, when you are turning right and there is oncoming traffic you
> should pass on the left (right side to right side) and go behind them, which
> is what I forced him to do.
>
> It made my day :-)

It's nice to see such a minor "victory" bring so much pleasure.
From: JNugent on
GT wrote:
> "Mortimer" <me(a)privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:CZGdnZ05RvKZPaDRnZ2dnUVZ8jqdnZ2d(a)brightview.co.uk...
>> "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote in message
>> news:4c3d9875$0$21714$c3e8da3(a)news.astraweb.com...
>>> "Mortimer" <me(a)privacy.net> wrote in message By the letter of the law,
>>> you did have the right of way, but perhaps he was expecting the old
>>> 'after you' guesture - you had only just started moving, so it wouldn't
>>> have held you up or anything! He might have been sitting there waiting
>>> for ages and was late for work etc etc.
>> Whether I *should* have let him go first is another matter. The fact is
>> that I didn't. In the absence of any clear signal from me (headlamp
>> flashing, until someone comes up with a less ambiguous one)
>
> I believe that headlamp flashing has now been recognised as a legitimate
> 'after you' indication.

Of course it has.

But there will be those who like to stretch themselves up to their full
height and recite in their best Jobsworth voice: "There is no recognised
smeaning for headl... [cont. p538.]
From: mileburner on

<boltar2003(a)boltar.world> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 15:24:56 +0100
> "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote:
>><boltar2003(a)boltar.world> wrote in message
>>news:i1k8fq$6jv$1(a)speranza.aioe.org...
>>> On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 11:57:36 +0100
>>> "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote:
>>>>All drivers should give a damn, but unfortunately these 'normal people'
>>>>don't, hence the number of accidents, injuries and deaths on our roads.
>>>>The
>>>>rules and guidelines are there for safety reasons, not just for the
>>>>nerds!
>>>
>>> So knowing the highway code would prevent accidents? Really? How so?
>>
>>Well you go out now and drive round with no regard for the rules. Drive on
>>the wrong side of the road. Go through red lights. See how many accidents
>>you have....
>
> Everyone knows what the speed limit is. That doesn't stop us exceeding it.

Who is this "us"?


From: mileburner on

"The Peeler" <peelingthe(a)invalid.admin> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 15:24:56 +0100, "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote:
>
>><boltar2003(a)boltar.world> wrote in message
>>news:i1k8fq$6jv$1(a)speranza.aioe.org...
>>> On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 11:57:36 +0100
>>> "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote:
>>>>All drivers should give a damn, but unfortunately these 'normal people'
>>>>don't, hence the number of accidents, injuries and deaths on our roads.
>>>>The
>>>>rules and guidelines are there for safety reasons, not just for the
>>>>nerds!
>>>
>>> So knowing the highway code would prevent accidents? Really? How so?
>>
>>Well you go out now and drive round with no regard for the rules. Drive on
>>the wrong side of the road. Go through red lights. See how many accidents
>>you have....
>
> You mean like cyclists do?

In which case the answer is: very few...