Priority rules when turning into a side road
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From: mileburner on 14 Jul 2010 13:17 "The Peeler" <peelingthe(a)invalid.admin> wrote in message news:23mr36lhk22c0samoge8d3cj0rcbacp3qt(a)4ax.com... > On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 15:02:44 +0100, "mileburner" > <mileburner(a)btinternet.com> wrote: > >>The Peeler wrote: >> >>>> >>>> And he was furious! He was flashing his lights and sounding his horn >>>> all the way down the side road, and gesticulating at me. I don't >>>> know whether he thought that *I* should have given way to *him*. >>> >>> This is what happens when you ban guns. An armed society is a polite >>> society. >> >>While that may be so, OTOH in some countries there are shootings over this >>kind of thing. > > As opposed to stabbings? > >>That's why they have laws about your gun being unloaded while >>in a car. > > I assume you're referring to the US. It varies widely from state to > state. > > http://www.handgunlaw.us/documents/USRVCarCarry.pdf Is it true that in some states it is compulsory to carry a gun?
From: mileburner on 14 Jul 2010 13:29 "Nick Finnigan" <nix(a)genie.co.uk> wrote in message news:i1ko55$sce$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > Mortimer wrote: >> I'm starting to doubt that I understand the highway code correctly. >> >> Suppose you have a car on a major road, indicating to turn left into a >> side road. Another car is approaching from the opposite direction and is >> indicating to turn right, across the traffic, into that same side road. >> >> Who has priority over whom? > > Nobody. Neither by law nor in the highway code. Turning right HC rule 180 Wait until there is a safe gap between you and any oncoming vehicle. In this case there was not "a safe gap". The implication is that the person turning right should give way as the vehicle turning left was an "oncoming vehicle".
From: The Peeler on 14 Jul 2010 14:07 On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 18:16:08 +0100, "mileburner" <mileburner(a)btinternet.com> wrote: > >"The Peeler" <peelingthe(a)invalid.admin> wrote in message >news:91mr36hfkss5f7lno13vegqalpltviq8k0(a)4ax.com... >> On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 15:24:56 +0100, "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote: >> >>><boltar2003(a)boltar.world> wrote in message >>>news:i1k8fq$6jv$1(a)speranza.aioe.org... >>>> On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 11:57:36 +0100 >>>> "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote: >>>>>All drivers should give a damn, but unfortunately these 'normal people' >>>>>don't, hence the number of accidents, injuries and deaths on our roads. >>>>>The >>>>>rules and guidelines are there for safety reasons, not just for the >>>>>nerds! >>>> >>>> So knowing the highway code would prevent accidents? Really? How so? >>> >>>Well you go out now and drive round with no regard for the rules. Drive on >>>the wrong side of the road. Go through red lights. See how many accidents >>>you have.... >> >> You mean like cyclists do? > >In which case the answer is: very few... Sadly, yes.
From: The Peeler on 14 Jul 2010 14:09 On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 18:17:16 +0100, "mileburner" <mileburner(a)btinternet.com> wrote: > >"The Peeler" <peelingthe(a)invalid.admin> wrote in message >news:23mr36lhk22c0samoge8d3cj0rcbacp3qt(a)4ax.com... >> On Wed, 14 Jul 2010 15:02:44 +0100, "mileburner" >> <mileburner(a)btinternet.com> wrote: >> >>>The Peeler wrote: >>> >>>>> >>>>> And he was furious! He was flashing his lights and sounding his horn >>>>> all the way down the side road, and gesticulating at me. I don't >>>>> know whether he thought that *I* should have given way to *him*. >>>> >>>> This is what happens when you ban guns. An armed society is a polite >>>> society. >>> >>>While that may be so, OTOH in some countries there are shootings over this >>>kind of thing. >> >> As opposed to stabbings? >> >>>That's why they have laws about your gun being unloaded while >>>in a car. >> >> I assume you're referring to the US. It varies widely from state to >> state. >> >> http://www.handgunlaw.us/documents/USRVCarCarry.pdf > >Is it true that in some states it is compulsory to carry a gun? No. But anyone can get one from the local equivalent of Loot or Exchange & Mart (if it still exists).
From: Nick Finnigan on 14 Jul 2010 16:12
mileburner wrote: > "Nick Finnigan" <nix(a)genie.co.uk> wrote in message > news:i1ko55$sce$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >> Mortimer wrote: >>> I'm starting to doubt that I understand the highway code correctly. >>> >>> Suppose you have a car on a major road, indicating to turn left into a >>> side road. Another car is approaching from the opposite direction and is >>> indicating to turn right, across the traffic, into that same side road. >>> >>> Who has priority over whom? >> Nobody. Neither by law nor in the highway code. > > Turning right > HC rule 180 > Wait until there is a safe gap between you and any oncoming vehicle. > > In this case there was not "a safe gap". There was a safe gap, and the driver waited for it. The implication is that the person > turning right should give way as the vehicle turning left was an "oncoming > vehicle". If Mortimer had been oncoming (not turning), in stop-start traffic, it would be entirely reasonable for the right-turner to wait until the idiot blocking the junction moved and produced a safe gap for him to use to turn in front of Mortimer (who would not be inconvenienced). That would be in accordance with rule 180. |