From: Arif Khokar on
On 2/13/2010 11:31 PM, richard wrote:

> In regards to the law, a question.
> Speed limit is 70. Three lanes one way.
> I'm in the left lane at the speed limit passing vehicles in the other two
> lanes.
> I see some fool coming up behind me doing 75 or better.

And he sees some fool who just pulled out in front of him to pass other
vehicles going nearly the same speed.

IOW, you should check behind you before pulling out to pass. If someone
will catch up with you before you can complete your pass, either stay in
the right lane till they're past you, or pull out to pass and speed up
such that they can't catch up to you before you complete your pass.

> According to this law, am I gonna get cited because I didn't give right of
> way to him?

Apparently so.

> That's the way I read it.
>
> It's not clear according to the article as to what exactly the conditions
> are.

The conditions are that you're going slower than the driver behind you
was and you're not moving out of the passing lane to let him by.
From: richard on
On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 01:50:06 -0500, Arif Khokar wrote:

> On 2/13/2010 11:31 PM, richard wrote:
>
>> In regards to the law, a question.
>> Speed limit is 70. Three lanes one way.
>> I'm in the left lane at the speed limit passing vehicles in the other two
>> lanes.
>> I see some fool coming up behind me doing 75 or better.
>
> And he sees some fool who just pulled out in front of him to pass other
> vehicles going nearly the same speed.
>
> IOW, you should check behind you before pulling out to pass. If someone
> will catch up with you before you can complete your pass, either stay in
> the right lane till they're past you, or pull out to pass and speed up
> such that they can't catch up to you before you complete your pass.
>
>> According to this law, am I gonna get cited because I didn't give right of
>> way to him?
>
> Apparently so.
>
>> That's the way I read it.
>>
>> It's not clear according to the article as to what exactly the conditions
>> are.
>
> The conditions are that you're going slower than the driver behind you
> was and you're not moving out of the passing lane to let him by.

Not at all. Before I moved into the lane, I check any oncoming traffic.
The speed limit is for him too. Just because he wants to go faster I have
to make all the concessions? The other two vehicles are well under the
speed limit. So I should be able to pass them with ease. I have no
intention of driving forever in the left lane unlike some, specially cops.
From: Arif Khokar on
On 2/14/2010 2:00 AM, richard wrote:
> On Sun, 14 Feb 2010 01:50:06 -0500, Arif Khokar wrote:

>>> It's not clear according to the article as to what exactly the conditions
>>> are.

>> The conditions are that you're going slower than the driver behind you
>> was and you're not moving out of the passing lane to let him by.

> Not at all. Before I moved into the lane, I check any oncoming traffic.

You apparently didn't if someone caught up with you before you completed
your pass.

> The speed limit is for him too.

And yielding to faster traffic is for you too.

> Just because he wants to go faster I have
> to make all the concessions?

Just because you're too lazy to push the accelerator down a little bit
or too impatient to wait before switching lanes means he has to make all
the concessions?

> The other two vehicles are well under the
> speed limit.

Then you should have been able to pass them in a very short period of
time. IOW, given your clarification regarding the speed differential
and the number of vehicles, it's blatently obvious that failed to yield
to faster traffic that was less than 500 feet behind you.

> So I should be able to pass them with ease.

But apparently, you're having a difficult time making the appropriate
judgment regarding when you can pull out to pass without interfering
with faster traffic.

> I have no
> intention of driving forever in the left lane unlike some,

But you apparently do have the intention of cutting off faster traffic.
From: Harry K on
On Feb 14, 3:16 pm, Scott in SoCal <scottenazt...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
> Last time on rec.autos.driving, richard <mem...(a)newsguy.com> said:
>
> >In regards to the law, a question.
> >Speed limit is 70. Three lanes one way.
> >I'm in the left lane at the speed limit passing vehicles in the other two
> >lanes.
> >I see some fool coming up behind me doing 75 or better.
> >According to this law, am I gonna get cited because I didn't give right of
> >way to him?
> >That's the way I read it.
>
> You're the fool blocking faster traffic in the passing lane. You'll be
> the one who is cited, and you will deserve it.
> --
> The MFFY Litmus Test:
> If your maneuver forces another driver WHO HAS THE RIGHT-OF-WAY
> to alter course or speed, what you did was probably MFFY.

You do realize that you are advocating that someone _obeying_ the law
and has the ROW must yeild that ROW. If a person is actively passing
at a reasonable rate they _are_ obeying the law and have the ROW.

You keep trying to confuse a legal manuever with LLB - it isn't and
never was.

Demanding that a guy speed up to suit you is more of an imposition
than you having to lift your foot for a few seconds.

Odd way of looking at things that a person with the ROW has to give it
away.

Harry K
From: Brent on
On 2010-02-15, Harry K <turnkey4099(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> On Feb 14, 3:16�pm, Scott in SoCal <scottenazt...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>> Last time on rec.autos.driving, richard <mem...(a)newsguy.com> said:
>>
>> >In regards to the law, a question.
>> >Speed limit is 70. Three lanes one way.
>> >I'm in the left lane at the speed limit passing vehicles in the other two
>> >lanes.
>> >I see some fool coming up behind me doing 75 or better.
>> >According to this law, am I gonna get cited because I didn't give right of
>> >way to him?
>> >That's the way I read it.
>>
>> You're the fool blocking faster traffic in the passing lane. You'll be
>> the one who is cited, and you will deserve it.
>> --
>> The MFFY Litmus Test:
>> If your maneuver forces another driver WHO HAS THE RIGHT-OF-WAY
>> to alter course or speed, what you did was probably MFFY.
>
> You do realize that you are advocating that someone _obeying_ the law
> and has the ROW must yeild that ROW. If a person is actively passing
> at a reasonable rate they _are_ obeying the law and have the ROW.
>
> You keep trying to confuse a legal manuever with LLB - it isn't and
> never was.
>
> Demanding that a guy speed up to suit you is more of an imposition
> than you having to lift your foot for a few seconds.
>
> Odd way of looking at things that a person with the ROW has to give it
> away.

The posted speed limit is irrelevant to the situation. It's usually
irrelevant to everything but to how much the armed highway men from the
government may collect.

It's something government will never admit is that it created the
LLBing problem with it's speed limits.