From: JC on
boltar2003(a)boltar.world said:

> > Which tells us nothing about the drivers road driving skills, which
> > are about observation, anticipation and matching speed to
> > conditions in very different ways to racing. If a road driver
> > relies on his reaction and response times frequently he is driving
> > very badly.
>
> FFS. If a racing driver has poor observation and anticipation skills
> he'll be off into the armco before the 1st corner, probably taking
> others with him. Have you ever seen the start of a motor race?


Many times, thats why I know its very different from road driving.

>It
> makes weaving through london traffic look like a walk in a deserted
> park.

Then stop weaving and start driving properly.
Road anticipation isnt the sort of anticipation and observation you use
when racing, do you remember Stirling Moss failing his driving test?
Road driving isnt (or shouldn't) be about applying razor sharp
reactions to split second situations, if you need those (other than
very rarely) you aren't doing it right in the first place.

--
JC at 2010-06-10 15:09:49
From: Ret. on
JC wrote:
> boltar2003(a)boltar.world said:
>
>>>> And if that "boy racer" was a trained race driver then that
>> "skilled" >> police driver would be left for dead assuming the cars
>> were >> comparable. I'll bet
>>>> on Lewis Hamilton any day on a fast drive through london traffic
>> even >> against the best police driver.
>>>
>>> Then you may well lose your money.
>>
>> Unlikely. His reaction & response times, car control and spacial
>> judgement will be way beyond anything you or your colleagues could
>> manage.
>
> Which tells us nothing about the drivers road driving skills, which
> are about observation, anticipation and matching speed to conditions
> in very different ways to racing. If a road driver relies on his
> reaction and response times frequently he is driving very badly.

Exactly right. The fact that Boltar cannot understand this, speaks volumes
about *his* driving skills.

--
Kev

From: boltar2003 on
On 10 Jun 2010 14:15:59 GMT
"JC" <spamspamegg(a)spam.com> wrote:
>Road anticipation isnt the sort of anticipation and observation you use

No , its a much more casual subset of it.

>when racing, do you remember Stirling Moss failing his driving test?

I wasn't born then so that would be unlikely.

>Road driving isnt (or shouldn't) be about applying razor sharp
>reactions to split second situations, if you need those (other than
>very rarely) you aren't doing it right in the first place.

We're not talking about normal road driving , we're talking about police
practising their skills when out on the road.

B2003


From: Adrian on
boltar2003(a)boltar.world gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying:

>>Road driving isnt (or shouldn't) be about applying razor sharp reactions
>>to split second situations, if you need those (other than very rarely)
>>you aren't doing it right in the first place.

> We're not talking about normal road driving , we're talking about police
> practising their skills when out on the road.

It's precisely the difference between driving in a controlled situation,
such as a track, and an unpredictable one, such as the road, that means
they need to practice on the road.
From: Graham Murray on
Adrian <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> writes:

> It's precisely the difference between driving in a controlled situation,
> such as a track, and an unpredictable one, such as the road, that means
> they need to practice on the road.

Or do as airline pilots do and learn and practice in a simulator rather
than on the road. That way they can be trained to handle potentially
dangerous situations before they encounter them on the road.