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From: johannes on 12 Jun 2010 09:03 "Ret." wrote: > [...] > > There is no doubt in my mind that the presence of speed cameras - both > static and mobile - have lead to a significant reduction in what I refer to > as 'serious speeding' - ie greater than 10 mph above the legal limit. People > are keeping their speed down not only because they have been caught > themselves - but because they know other people who have been caught and > simply do not want to risk it. But didn't you know that BMW drivers have the right to drive at speed limit plus 10 mph?
From: Ret. on 12 Jun 2010 10:42 johannes wrote: > "Ret." wrote: >> > [...] >> >> There is no doubt in my mind that the presence of speed cameras - >> both static and mobile - have lead to a significant reduction in >> what I refer to as 'serious speeding' - ie greater than 10 mph above >> the legal limit. People are keeping their speed down not only >> because they have been caught themselves - but because they know >> other people who have been caught and simply do not want to risk it. > > But didn't you know that BMW drivers have the right to drive at speed > limit plus 10 mph? They certainly appear to *think* that they have that right! -- Kev
From: joe on 13 Jun 2010 05:09 Ret. wrote: > > > > And nor do I see police drivers 'practicing their skills' on the > > > > public roads - other than clearly marked police driving school > > > > vehicles. > > > > > > You've obviously never driven down the A41. Unless "clearly > > > marked" means they have 3 antennas on the roof. > > > > > > > Or Hartside pass in Cumbria where one of them mearly ran me off the > > road. The only indication was a plate about 18 ins sq in the back of > > the car. > > Strange isn't it how it is always the anti-police mob on uk.legal who > have experiences like this... Far be it for me to suggest that you > have made it up... think the other way, they are anti-police *because* of the experience. The police are making more and more people see what they are really like, and with the widespread use of mobiles to film, it is even wider spread. --
From: joe on 13 Jun 2010 08:41 Ret. wrote: > What puzzles me is just why so many of the anti-police posters have > these unpleasant experiences. I have been retired now for nine years. > I have had no interaction with police officers during that time apart > from calling into a police station on occasion to seek directions. > The officer who helped me could not have been more pleasant - even > going to the trouble of photocopying a local street map and drawing > the route on it. And, no, he did not know that I was a retired > Inspector. You are truly a forgiving guy, conveniently forgetting how the police tried to stitch you up into a speeding charge. That incident alone, would have us mere mortals thinking they should avoid the police as far as possible. > This also seems to be the experience of almost everyone I know. They > are ordinary decent human beings. They don't break the law or > seriously speed, or park on yellow lines, etc - and hence they just > never have any interaction with the police to complain about. I parked on a pavement next to another bike, and when I returned, a policeman was standing next to the bikes, 3 there by this time. He asked which one was mine, when I told him, he said it was a lovely bike and asked where it had been painted. We chatted for almost half an hour before I said I had to return to work, he would have stayed longer. It was a nice experience with a nice copper. I have had lots of pleasant experiences with police, I have also had a few bad experiences, not all happening to myself, but I personally witnessed. If you haven't experienced both sides of the bahaviour, I suggest you have been lucky and have not been anywhere near a strike, or other protest including public gatherings. The police try to keep their bad behaviour quiet. > > I've mentioned this before - but you would be surprised at the number > of 'thank you' letters that come into police stations every week from > members of the public who have good reason to thank the local police > for the service they have received. I would not, the service the police normally give to middle aged and above people, is normally quite good. > The police service that you and Alang so regularly criticise is not a > police service that I know or even recognise. Yet does exist. --
From: Ret. on 13 Jun 2010 08:46
joe wrote: > Ret. wrote: > >> What puzzles me is just why so many of the anti-police posters have >> these unpleasant experiences. I have been retired now for nine years. >> I have had no interaction with police officers during that time apart >> from calling into a police station on occasion to seek directions. >> The officer who helped me could not have been more pleasant - even >> going to the trouble of photocopying a local street map and drawing >> the route on it. And, no, he did not know that I was a retired >> Inspector. > > You are truly a forgiving guy, conveniently forgetting how the police > tried to stitch you up into a speeding charge. That incident alone, > would have us mere mortals thinking they should avoid the police as > far as possible. > But, you see, no they didn't. They stated right from the start that they had no intention of booking me for speeding. > > >> This also seems to be the experience of almost everyone I know. They >> are ordinary decent human beings. They don't break the law or >> seriously speed, or park on yellow lines, etc - and hence they just >> never have any interaction with the police to complain about. > > I parked on a pavement next to another bike, and when I returned, a > policeman was standing next to the bikes, 3 there by this time. He > asked which one was mine, when I told him, he said it was a lovely > bike and asked where it had been painted. We chatted for almost half > an hour before I said I had to return to work, he would have stayed > longer. > It was a nice experience with a nice copper. I have had lots of > pleasant experiences with police, I have also had a few bad > experiences, not all happening to myself, but I personally witnessed. > If you haven't experienced both sides of the bahaviour, I suggest you > have been lucky and have not been anywhere near a strike, or other > protest including public gatherings. > The police try to keep their bad behaviour quiet. > >> >> I've mentioned this before - but you would be surprised at the number >> of 'thank you' letters that come into police stations every week from >> members of the public who have good reason to thank the local police >> for the service they have received. > > I would not, the service the police normally give to middle aged and > above people, is normally quite good. > > >> The police service that you and Alang so regularly criticise is not a >> police service that I know or even recognise. > > Yet does exist. I know full well that there is a minority of officers who let the side down - but they are indeed a minority, and to suggest otherwise is a nonsense. -- Kev |