From: Diesel Damo on
On Mar 15, 4:46 am, "Sekula" <nore...(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
> http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/1027084/qld-flag-lowering-drink-d...
>
> How about proving that 0.05 is the reason people are killing themselves and
> others, BEFORE that proposal is considered you banana-bending rockapes?

My first thought when I heard about this was "Huh? How many deaths
have there been *because* a driver had a BAC of 0.04, let alone 0.03?
(i.e. not just *coinciding* with a driver having a BAC of 0.04/3)"

All that's going to happen is they'll catch a SHITLOAD more drivers
for being over a limit. A limit so low that many will feel completely
sober while being horribly and callously illegal. <sarcasm> Gee, I
wonder what the motivation behind this push is... </sarcasm>
From: Sekula on

"F Murtz" <haggisz(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Sekula wrote:
>> http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/1027084/qld-flag-lowering-drink-driving-limit
>>
>> How about proving that 0.05 is the reason people are killing themselves
>> and
>> others, BEFORE that proposal is considered you banana-bending rockapes?
>>
>>
> Statistics interpretation is the problem, 71 deaths involving alcohol,it
> may have no bearing on the death.If alcohol is present in any of the
> participants in the slightest quantities it is automatically touted as the
> cause.

Agreed. You can just imagine a bunch of teenagers on a binge night deciding
" we better not drink past 0.05, let alone 0.02"...its time we told the
morons in govt that we wont accept laws based on knee-jerk reactions. The
loss of revenue from this new proposed 0.02 law, forcing decent people to
basically stop drinking at all before driving, will only mean govt will seek
even more ridiculous means to generate revenue. God help us all.


From: Feral on
Athol wrote:
>
> I'm hearing that NSW are proposing 0.02 at the moment, too.
>
Logically it seems that when you're texting and not as enebriated, you (or others) might have a better chance of survival??????

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From: PhilD on

"F Murtz" <haggisz(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Sekula wrote:
>> http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/1027084/qld-flag-lowering-drink-driving-limit
>>
>> How about proving that 0.05 is the reason people are killing themselves
>> and
>> others, BEFORE that proposal is considered you banana-bending rockapes?
>>
>>
> Statistics interpretation is the problem, 71 deaths involving alcohol,it
> may have no bearing on the death.If alcohol is present in any of the
> participants in the slightest quantities it is automatically touted as the
> cause.
Same goes for speed, regardless of other factors. Publicity put out depends
on what the various officials are trying to justify at the time. For a long
time I've thought that the worst statistic is the actual death figure itself
as there's such a fine line between a death and being a quadriplegic etc.

A long time ago while a group of us were regularly commuting to a country
job we had one driver who had most of us scared and declining to travel in
his car. He used to sit at an angle with his back almost against the "B"
pillar so he could chat to passengers easier. He was a smoker and did it
with the left hand, but when butting it he would take it with the right hand
and put that hand through the centre of the steering wheel to get to the ash
tray. It was frightening to watch. We started talking about the State death
toll and that sooner or later we would have one or more ourselves with the
amount of country trips. He actually took it so seriously that he went the
other way to far and would sit bolt upright, both hands on wheel in a death
grip and drive way slow. We actually didn't want to travel with him then as
it took so long to get there.

PhilD


From: Atheist Chaplain on
"Athol" <athol_SPIT_SPAM(a)idl.net.au> wrote in message
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> Sekula <noreply(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>> http://news.ninemsn.com.au/national/1027084/qld-flag-lowering-drink-driving-limit
>
>> How about proving that 0.05 is the reason people are killing themselves
>> and
>> others, BEFORE that proposal is considered you banana-bending rockapes?
>
> I'm hearing that NSW are proposing 0.02 at the moment, too.
>
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> I'm a Libran Engineer. I don't argue, I discuss.

do you have a cite for this as I haven't heard or seen a thing about NSW
considering this.

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