From: OzOne on
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 21:53:44 +1000, "Noddy" <me(a)home.com> wrote:


>Uh-huh.

Uh huh




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From: Toby on
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 20:34:13 +1000, Noddy wrote:

> I'm not arguing that seatbelts aren't an effective safety tool. I'm
> complaining about big brother telling us what "we need to do".
>
> --

err, "we HAVE to do" it. It's called coercion, and nanny never did that.
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From: OzOne on
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 21:57:12 +1000, "Noddy" <me(a)home.com> wrote:

>
>" Scotty" <scoter1(a)warmmail.com> wrote in message
>news:4c161900$0$32019$afc38c87(a)news.optusnet.com.au...
>
>> Then why not condone the use of them in all seating positions?
>
>I *do*, and I *have*.

But you happily drive around rear seat passengers without belts.




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From: D Walford on
On 14/06/2010 9:40 PM, Noddy wrote:
> "Brad"<google1(a)vk2qq.com> wrote in message
> news:732b2567-01d7-4877-ae76-58bb15c44bca(a)v12g2000prb.googlegroups.com...
>
>> The problem of making them non-compulsory is the increased cost to
>> society (we must be to blame) and the insurance would be prohibitive.
>
> As I said to Athol in another post, removing the compulsory requirement
> wouldn't automatically mean that people would adopt a wholesale non wearing
> attitude. In fact, I think the majority are probably very comfortable with
> the idea of wearing them and would feel more than a little ill at ease in
> not doing so. I'm certainly not suggesting that people don't wear them. Just
> that the idea that we need to be told that we *have* to wear them is
> ridiculous.
>

Same issue as in the ones raised in the Skaife thread.
Govt's take control of our lives because they want to be seen "doing
what's best for us".
I agree that these days most people would still wear a seat belt even if
it suddenly was no longer compulsory but that's because of habit, if it
had never been compulsory I doubt that a high percentage would wear them.
Because they are compulsory we have learned how valuable they are,
without them being compulsory I wonder if we would be so convinced of
their value?


Daryl
From: Toby on
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 22:23:02 +1000, D Walford wrote:

> On 14/06/2010 9:40 PM, Noddy wrote:
>> "Brad"<google1(a)vk2qq.com> wrote in message
>> news:732b2567-01d7-4877-ae76-58bb15c44bca(a)v12g2000prb.googlegroups.com...
>>
>>> The problem of making them non-compulsory is the increased cost to
>>> society (we must be to blame) and the insurance would be prohibitive.
>>
>> As I said to Athol in another post, removing the compulsory requirement
>> wouldn't automatically mean that people would adopt a wholesale non wearing
>> attitude. In fact, I think the majority are probably very comfortable with
>> the idea of wearing them and would feel more than a little ill at ease in
>> not doing so. I'm certainly not suggesting that people don't wear them. Just
>> that the idea that we need to be told that we *have* to wear them is
>> ridiculous.
>>
>
> Same issue as in the ones raised in the Skaife thread.
> Govt's take control of our lives because they want to be seen "doing
> what's best for us".
> I agree that these days most people would still wear a seat belt even if
> it suddenly was no longer compulsory but that's because of habit, if it
> had never been compulsory I doubt that a high percentage would wear them.
> Because they are compulsory we have learned how valuable they are,
> without them being compulsory I wonder if we would be so convinced of
> their value?
>
>
> Daryl

I was wearing them looong before they were compulsory. My entire family
did. Belts were fitted as aftermarket bits to our cars as soon as they
became available.
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Toby.
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