From: OzOne on 14 Jun 2010 08:05 On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 21:53:44 +1000, "Noddy" <me(a)home.com> wrote: >Uh-huh. Uh huh OzOne of the three twins I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace.
From: Toby on 14 Jun 2010 08:03 On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 20:34:13 +1000, Noddy wrote: > I'm not arguing that seatbelts aren't an effective safety tool. I'm > complaining about big brother telling us what "we need to do". > > -- err, "we HAVE to do" it. It's called coercion, and nanny never did that. -- Toby. Caveat Lector
From: OzOne on 14 Jun 2010 08:14 On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 21:57:12 +1000, "Noddy" <me(a)home.com> wrote: > >" Scotty" <scoter1(a)warmmail.com> wrote in message >news:4c161900$0$32019$afc38c87(a)news.optusnet.com.au... > >> Then why not condone the use of them in all seating positions? > >I *do*, and I *have*. But you happily drive around rear seat passengers without belts. OzOne of the three twins I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace.
From: D Walford on 14 Jun 2010 08:23 On 14/06/2010 9:40 PM, Noddy wrote: > "Brad"<google1(a)vk2qq.com> wrote in message > news:732b2567-01d7-4877-ae76-58bb15c44bca(a)v12g2000prb.googlegroups.com... > >> The problem of making them non-compulsory is the increased cost to >> society (we must be to blame) and the insurance would be prohibitive. > > As I said to Athol in another post, removing the compulsory requirement > wouldn't automatically mean that people would adopt a wholesale non wearing > attitude. In fact, I think the majority are probably very comfortable with > the idea of wearing them and would feel more than a little ill at ease in > not doing so. I'm certainly not suggesting that people don't wear them. Just > that the idea that we need to be told that we *have* to wear them is > ridiculous. > Same issue as in the ones raised in the Skaife thread. Govt's take control of our lives because they want to be seen "doing what's best for us". I agree that these days most people would still wear a seat belt even if it suddenly was no longer compulsory but that's because of habit, if it had never been compulsory I doubt that a high percentage would wear them. Because they are compulsory we have learned how valuable they are, without them being compulsory I wonder if we would be so convinced of their value? Daryl
From: Toby on 14 Jun 2010 08:27
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 22:23:02 +1000, D Walford wrote: > On 14/06/2010 9:40 PM, Noddy wrote: >> "Brad"<google1(a)vk2qq.com> wrote in message >> news:732b2567-01d7-4877-ae76-58bb15c44bca(a)v12g2000prb.googlegroups.com... >> >>> The problem of making them non-compulsory is the increased cost to >>> society (we must be to blame) and the insurance would be prohibitive. >> >> As I said to Athol in another post, removing the compulsory requirement >> wouldn't automatically mean that people would adopt a wholesale non wearing >> attitude. In fact, I think the majority are probably very comfortable with >> the idea of wearing them and would feel more than a little ill at ease in >> not doing so. I'm certainly not suggesting that people don't wear them. Just >> that the idea that we need to be told that we *have* to wear them is >> ridiculous. >> > > Same issue as in the ones raised in the Skaife thread. > Govt's take control of our lives because they want to be seen "doing > what's best for us". > I agree that these days most people would still wear a seat belt even if > it suddenly was no longer compulsory but that's because of habit, if it > had never been compulsory I doubt that a high percentage would wear them. > Because they are compulsory we have learned how valuable they are, > without them being compulsory I wonder if we would be so convinced of > their value? > > > Daryl I was wearing them looong before they were compulsory. My entire family did. Belts were fitted as aftermarket bits to our cars as soon as they became available. -- Toby. Caveat Lector |