From: D Walford on 14 Jun 2010 18:54 On 15/06/2010 8:18 AM, John_H wrote: > D Walford wrote: >> >> I remember wearing a seatbelt when I was a very young child in the 50's >> in my Grandfathers car which was a 1929 Chev, he believed in seat belts >> way back then but I think he was rare. > > One of the cars I owned back in the days of my impoverished youth was > a 1956 Vanguard with factory fitted lap/sash belts front and rear > (possibly optional rather than the standard fitment). Is that the model with the rounded rear, same Grandfather had one of those, a green one and it also had seat belts. Every > subsequent car I've owned also had them. IIRC correctly wearing them > became compulsory around 1974, but only in cars that already had them > fitted. At that point I'd been wearing them for years (as would've > many others). > > AFAIK it's never been compulsory to fit aftermarket seatbelts (and > still isn't)... even passenger buses haven't had to have them at all > until relatively recent times. Which says heaps about the real intent > of the law IMHO! > I remember fitting aftermarket belts to a few cars, my first car was a 1962 Beetle which had no seat belts when I bought it but it did soon after. Daryl
From: Brad on 14 Jun 2010 21:01 "veritas" <veritas(a)ghntk.com> wrote in message news:huvfiu$9hf$1(a)speranza.aioe.org... : On 11/06/2010 9:15 PM, Milton wrote: : : > : > I just don't believe the current belts are wide enough to give safer : > protection to the body. : > : : I can testify that a four point well padded harness (and that inch wider : that you mentioned) will split a sternum and bruise from shoulder to : stomach while preventing heart and lungs from splattering the entire : contents all over the instrument panel. The inertia reel did its job at : 230 KPH. I had a nasty one in speedway, 4 point did it's job but the whiplash was painful and long lasting. Hans device would have stopped most of that then I should have worn a horse collar too I would have had a 5 point but none in stock locally so I was waiting for an order. I had a racing suit on (not mandatory, only long sleeves etc..) but not the full firesuit and balaclava. Thankfully no flames that night. I think the seatbelt seems to be a fair compromise on road, but an airbag would be nice in most situations. Where to draw the line is always going to be a compromise. I had a few bingles when I was young, and even sillier, seat belts were a factor in the whole life/death thing with one each way. there are freak times when a seatbelt is bad but it is outweighed by the times it can save serious injury. The roof caving in is one where the seat belt can be bad. Here seat belts are compulsory in law but seldom enforced. -- Brad Leyden 6� 43.5816' S 146� 59.3097' E WGS84 To mail spam is really hot but please reply to thread so all may benefit (or laugh at my mistakes) > >
From: jonz on 14 Jun 2010 21:01 On 6/14/2010 8:58 PM, Noddy wrote: > <OzOne(a)Crackerbox-Palace.com> wrote in message > news:c32c16lulqa3qjsqdt6d4avfrn8ie1u8ki(a)4ax.com... > >> Then you're a fool! > > According to you, but then you freely admitted to spending money > supercharging a Magna :) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ straw man time eh?........... > > -- > Regards, > Noddy. > > -- jonz "Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea - massive, difficult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind - boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it." - Gene Spafford,1992
From: jonz on 14 Jun 2010 21:09 On 6/14/2010 8:34 PM, Noddy wrote: > "jonz"<fj40(a)deisel.com> wrote in message news:4c1583fd(a)dnews.tpgi.com.au... > >> he will find some weasel words to justify his POV > > You can be as sharp as custard at times pal. > > For you, and any *other* brain dead fuckwit who doesn't comprehend basic > English. I'm *aware* of the dangers associated with *not* wearing seat > belts, and I'm *not* saying people *shouldn't* wear them. What I *am* saying > is that it shouldn't be compulsory. Just like suffrage shouldn't be > compulsory. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Straw man.......... > > I'm not arguing that seatbelts aren't an effective safety tool. I'm > complaining about big brother telling us what "we need to do". > > -- > Regards, > Noddy. > > > -- jonz "Usenet is like a herd of performing elephants with diarrhea - massive, difficult to redirect, awe-inspiring, entertaining, and a source of mind - boggling amounts of excrement when you least expect it." - Gene Spafford,1992
From: Brad on 14 Jun 2010 21:15
"Noddy" <me(a)home.com> wrote in message news:4c160ce7$0$78838$c30e37c6(a)exi-reader.telstra.net... : : <OzOne(a)Crackerbox-Palace.com> wrote in message : news:c32c16lulqa3qjsqdt6d4avfrn8ie1u8ki(a)4ax.com... : : > Then you're a fool! : : According to you, but then you freely admitted to spending money : supercharging a Magna :) : : -- : Regards, : Noddy. : : I'll actually pay that one. Almost as bad as a marina. -- Brad Leyden 6� 43.5816' S 146� 59.3097' E WGS84 To mail spam is really hot but please reply to thread so all may benefit (or laugh at my mistakes) > > |