Query on seatbelts
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From: Noddy on 14 Jun 2010 21:17 "jonz" <fj40(a)deisel.com> wrote in message news:4c16d1c7(a)dnews.tpgi.com.au... > straw man time eh?........... Just pointing out the hypocrisy of an idiot calling someone else a fool :) -- Regards, Noddy.
From: John_H on 14 Jun 2010 21:26 D Walford wrote: >On 15/06/2010 8:18 AM, John_H wrote: >> D Walford wrote: >>> >>> I remember wearing a seatbelt when I was a very young child in the 50's >>> in my Grandfathers car which was a 1929 Chev, he believed in seat belts >>> way back then but I think he was rare. >> >> One of the cars I owned back in the days of my impoverished youth was >> a 1956 Vanguard with factory fitted lap/sash belts front and rear >> (possibly optional rather than the standard fitment). > >Is that the model with the rounded rear, same Grandfather had one of >those, a green one and it also had seat belts. '56 was the first Phase III, the last of the Vanguard body shapes. Wiki claims '59 Volvos were the first to have three point belts as standard, which makes me think they might have been optional in Vanguards, possibly dealer fitted. The reinforced anchorage points in mine didn't look aftermarket and would almost certainly have been ex factory. Standard Triumph introduced a number of features now taken for granted... including first gear synchromesh, overdrive and disc brakes (the latter being a world first on the '56 TR3). The 1963 Triumph 2000, that replaced the Vanguard, had seat belts as standard (and disc brakes) as well as progressively collapsible extremities and a rigid cab structure. It's also one of the few cars I can recall that had a double paneled floor pan (the engine also went underneath it in a frontal collision). AFAIK they never aggressively promoted the safety angle and others who did ended up with most of the credit. Wiki also credits Nils Bohlin with inventing the thee point seat belt, which I wouldn't dispute. That he didn't invent it until 1958 is what I'd doubt (unless whoever put them in the '56 Vanguard I owned was extremely clever at retrofits).... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nils_Bohlin -- John H
From: Noddy on 14 Jun 2010 21:19 "Brad" <bradleyden(a)spammail.com> wrote in message news:hv6k86$42k$1(a)news.ett.com.ua... > I'll actually pay that one. Almost as bad as a marina. Far worse. It's *his* car :) -- Regards, Noddy.
From: OzOne on 14 Jun 2010 21:32 On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 11:17:49 +1000, "Noddy" <me(a)home.com> wrote: > >"jonz" <fj40(a)deisel.com> wrote in message news:4c16d1c7(a)dnews.tpgi.com.au... > >> straw man time eh?........... > >Just pointing out the hypocrisy of an idiot calling someone else a fool :) hypocrite! OzOne of the three twins I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace.
From: F Murtz on 15 Jun 2010 01:09
D Walford wrote: > On 15/06/2010 8:18 AM, John_H wrote: >> D Walford wrote: >>> >>> I remember wearing a seatbelt when I was a very young child in the 50's >>> in my Grandfathers car which was a 1929 Chev, he believed in seat belts >>> way back then but I think he was rare. >> >> One of the cars I owned back in the days of my impoverished youth was >> a 1956 Vanguard with factory fitted lap/sash belts front and rear >> (possibly optional rather than the standard fitment). > > Is that the model with the rounded rear, same Grandfather had one of > those, a green one and it also had seat belts. Commonly called humpty backs, had the same wet sleeve engine as triumph TR sports car and some tractors. > > Every >> subsequent car I've owned also had them. IIRC correctly wearing them >> became compulsory around 1974, but only in cars that already had them >> fitted. At that point I'd been wearing them for years (as would've >> many others). >> >> AFAIK it's never been compulsory to fit aftermarket seatbelts (and >> still isn't)... even passenger buses haven't had to have them at all >> until relatively recent times. Which says heaps about the real intent >> of the law IMHO! >> > I remember fitting aftermarket belts to a few cars, my first car was a > 1962 Beetle which had no seat belts when I bought it but it did soon after. > > > > Daryl |