Query on seatbelts
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From: Milton on 11 Jun 2010 07:15 It's incredible the amount of serious injuries caused to persons in an accident (especially head-ons) from wearing seatbelts. Whilst I agree it's safer to still wear them than not, I believe it would be safer if seatbelts were at least another inch wider. The amount of pressure on the body points would be reduced substantially. There have been cases where the belt has actually cut people to the point that their stomach intestines have come through the cut. I just don't believe the current belts are wide enough to give safer protection to the body. Cheers Milton
From: OzOne on 11 Jun 2010 13:31 On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 21:15:22 +1000, "Milton" <millame23(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >It's incredible the amount of serious injuries caused to persons in an >accident (especially head-ons) from wearing seatbelts. Whilst I agree it's >safer to still wear them than not, I believe it would be safer if seatbelts >were at least another inch wider. The amount of pressure on the body points >would be reduced substantially. There have been cases where the belt has >actually cut people to the point that their stomach intestines have come >through the cut. > >I just don't believe the current belts are wide enough to give safer >protection to the body. > >Cheers > >Milton Perfectly safe if worn properly. Operator error causes most injuries. OzOne of the three twins I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace.
From: Doug Jewell on 11 Jun 2010 17:56 OzOne(a)Crackerbox-Palace.com wrote: > On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 21:15:22 +1000, "Milton" <millame23(a)yahoo.com> > wrote: > >> It's incredible the amount of serious injuries caused to persons in an >> accident (especially head-ons) from wearing seatbelts. Whilst I agree it's >> safer to still wear them than not, I believe it would be safer if seatbelts >> were at least another inch wider. The amount of pressure on the body points >> would be reduced substantially. There have been cases where the belt has >> actually cut people to the point that their stomach intestines have come >> through the cut. >> >> I just don't believe the current belts are wide enough to give safer >> protection to the body. >> >> Cheers >> >> Milton > > Perfectly safe if worn properly. > Operator error causes most injuries. That's why racing cars all have lap-sash seat belts the same as fitted to passenger vehicles. > > > > > OzOne of the three twins > > I welcome you to Crackerbox Palace. -- What is the difference between a duck?
From: D Walford on 11 Jun 2010 19:00 On 12/06/2010 7:56 AM, Doug Jewell wrote: > OzOne(a)Crackerbox-Palace.com wrote: >> On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 21:15:22 +1000, "Milton" <millame23(a)yahoo.com> >> wrote: >> >>> It's incredible the amount of serious injuries caused to persons in >>> an accident (especially head-ons) from wearing seatbelts. Whilst I >>> agree it's safer to still wear them than not, I believe it would be >>> safer if seatbelts were at least another inch wider. The amount of >>> pressure on the body points would be reduced substantially. There >>> have been cases where the belt has actually cut people to the point >>> that their stomach intestines have come through the cut. >>> >>> I just don't believe the current belts are wide enough to give safer >>> protection to the body. >>> >>> Cheers >>> >>> Milton >> >> Perfectly safe if worn properly. >> Operator error causes most injuries. > That's why racing cars all have lap-sash seat belts the same as fitted > to passenger vehicles. A racing harness may be better at restraining people in vehicles but they aren't very practical and in some circumstances could be considered dangerous in a road car. Mate used to have them in his road registered Clubman but took them out because you were strapped in so tight you couldn't move enough to allow you to see the traffic in certain circumstances. Daryl
From: Doug Jewell on 11 Jun 2010 19:56
D Walford wrote: > On 12/06/2010 7:56 AM, Doug Jewell wrote: >> OzOne(a)Crackerbox-Palace.com wrote: >>> On Fri, 11 Jun 2010 21:15:22 +1000, "Milton" <millame23(a)yahoo.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> It's incredible the amount of serious injuries caused to persons in >>>> an accident (especially head-ons) from wearing seatbelts. Whilst I >>>> agree it's safer to still wear them than not, I believe it would be >>>> safer if seatbelts were at least another inch wider. The amount of >>>> pressure on the body points would be reduced substantially. There >>>> have been cases where the belt has actually cut people to the point >>>> that their stomach intestines have come through the cut. >>>> >>>> I just don't believe the current belts are wide enough to give safer >>>> protection to the body. >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> Milton >>> >>> Perfectly safe if worn properly. >>> Operator error causes most injuries. >> That's why racing cars all have lap-sash seat belts the same as fitted >> to passenger vehicles. > > A racing harness may be better at restraining people in vehicles but > they aren't very practical and in some circumstances could be considered > dangerous in a road car. > Mate used to have them in his road registered Clubman but took them out > because you were strapped in so tight you couldn't move enough to allow > you to see the traffic in certain circumstances. You're 100% right of course, but if lap-sash belts were "perfectly safe" as ozone claimed, they'd be good enough for race cars as well. I think the OP's point is a valid one though. The basic design of the seatbelt hasn't changed in 40'odd years. About the only change has been the auto-tensioner/retractor, which is a vast improvement over the old belts, which were either too tight, so as to restrict movement, or too loose and hence with lower effectiveness. I wonder if an auto-tensioning/retracting multi-point harness would be feasible? Could potentially be done in such a way that you have freedom of movement, but in the event of a crash it locks up and spreads the force over a greater area of the body. > > > > Daryl -- What is the difference between a duck? |