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From: Mike P on 18 Jul 2010 14:49
"John" <Who90nospam(a)ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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>>>>>>> My daughter wants me to go with her to view a used car tomorrow -
>>>>>>> being sold be a friend of a friend at a good price - history known -
>>>>>>> mileage low.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The car is a W Reg Rover 25.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> What should I really look out for. What are known issues (that I
>>>>>>> won't know about)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> great little car apart from the head gasket. I got one recently in
>>>>>> nice looking condition and very low mileage for 100 quid , BUT I had
>>>>>> to do the head gasket/water pump/cambelt/antifreeze.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> So - is the test to rev the engine (cool) with the water cap off to
>>>>> see if the level changes much?
>>>>>
>>>> no, buy a block test kit.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Is this something a Motor Engineer (decent garage that does engine work)
>>> will possess? I have never heard of such a thing - what does it do -
>>> pressurise the system - or read pressure?
>>>
>>>
>> any garage would have it, basically it is a coloured liquid that will
>> change colour if combustion gases pass through it. the kit is on ebay
>> about twenty quid or so. that vehicle can suffer from non-combustion
>> head gasket leaks when it pumps oil into the water system, but that is
>> easy to spot by inspection of the header bottle.
>>
>>
>
> Looked at it today and it was something of an anomaly. The mileage was
> only showing 27,000 (apparently backed up with MOT documents but not yet
> seen)
>
> Really clean - door edges, interior, etc. Downside was that the son of the
> lady owner had: Applied tints to the windows - police made him remove it
> from the fronts, daft big exhaust tail pipe and back box fitted and alloy
> wheels (good tyres). The nuts seemed a bit odd in that some showed more
> empty thread than others - a bit suspect!
> No smell of combustion in the cooling water. Electrics -- incl Sun Roof
> seemed fine. Air cleaner removed and replaced with a conical thing.
>
> All a bit of a mix of careful lady owner and stupid son.

So it's been chavved up, badly if the wheels are anything to go by, and is a
Rover with potential nasty headgasket issues.

Hmm.

Need I say more?

--
Mike P

From: steve robinson on 18 Jul 2010 15:01
John wrote:

> "Mrcheerful" <nbkm57(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:dOz0o.232885$tH4.204687(a)hurricane...
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> >"John" <Who90nospam(a)ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:hzz0o.474$vA1.269(a)hurricane... >>"Mrcheerful"
> <nbkm57(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
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> > > >
> >>>"John" <Who90nospam(a)ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:Vdq0o.136984$U%7.74764(a)hurricane... >>>>"Mrcheerful"
> <nbkm57(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:L5n0o.7071$W43.6137(a)newsfe11.ams2...
> > > > > >
> >>>>>"John" <Who90nospam(a)ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:Hmm0o.266003$w51.222136(a)hurricane...
> > > > > > > My daughter wants me to go with her to view a used car
> > > > > > > tomorrow - being sold be a friend of a friend at a
> > > > > > > good price - history known - mileage low.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The car is a W Reg Rover 25.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > What should I really look out for. What are known
> > > > > > > issues (that I won't know about)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > great little car apart from the head gasket. I got one
> > > > > > recently in nice looking condition and very low mileage
> > > > > > for 100 quid , BUT I had to do the head gasket/water
> > > > > > pump/cambelt/antifreeze.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > So - is the test to rev the engine (cool) with the water
> > > > > cap off to see if the level changes much?
> > > > >
> > > > no, buy a block test kit.
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > > Is this something a Motor Engineer (decent garage that does
> > > engine work) will possess? I have never heard of such a thing
> > > - what does it do - pressurise the system - or read pressure?
> > >
> > >
> > any garage would have it, basically it is a coloured liquid that
> > will change colour if combustion gases pass through it. the kit
> > is on ebay about twenty quid or so. that vehicle can suffer
> > from non-combustion head gasket leaks when it pumps oil into the
> > water system, but that is easy to spot by inspection of the
> > header bottle.
> >
> >
>
> Looked at it today and it was something of an anomaly. The mileage
> was only showing 27,000 (apparently backed up with MOT documents
> but not yet seen)
>
> Really clean - door edges, interior, etc. Downside was that the son
> of the lady owner had: Applied tints to the windows - police made
> him remove it from the fronts, daft big exhaust tail pipe and back
> box fitted and alloy wheels (good tyres). The nuts seemed a bit odd
> in that some showed more empty thread than others - a bit suspect!
> No smell of combustion in the cooling water. Electrics -- incl Sun
> Roof seemed fine. Air cleaner removed and replaced with a conical
> thing.
>
> All a bit of a mix of careful lady owner and stupid son.

Walk away from it , if its been customised by stupid son then its
probably had the bollocks hammered out of it by him
From: Andy Cap on 18 Jul 2010 15:53
Mrcheerful wrote:

>
> just walk away from it, there are millions of nice, safe cars available.
>

Definitely seconded.

Andy C

From: Kellerman "kellerman on 19 Jul 2010 15:34

> All a bit of a mix of careful lady owner and stupid son.
>
>
I agree with the others - walk away from it and find a careful lady
owner without a stupid son.
Oh and perhaps not a Rover - unless it's a P4 or a P6 ;=)
--
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From: John on 19 Jul 2010 18:40
"Kellerman" <"kellerman <snot> wrote in message
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>
>> All a bit of a mix of careful lady owner and stupid son.
>>
>>
> I agree with the others - walk away from it and find a careful lady owner
> without a stupid son.
> Oh and perhaps not a Rover - unless it's a P4 or a P6 ;=)
> --
> Blow my nose to email me
>



Thanks for all the advice - I now just hope that my daughter will follow the
advice I have passed on and will not be influenced differently. I have told
her it is a ticking time-bomb - with dodgy wheel fixings - a high insurance
premium (incl Modifications) and too complex for a first car.


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