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From: oldMaxim on 14 Mar 2010 09:48
On 14 Mar, 13:36, Conor <co...(a)gmx.co.uk> wrote:
> On 14/03/2010 13:25, oldMaxim wrote:
> > ...why's this a stupid law??
> Because the governments own official statistics prove it is a nonsense.
> The figures for KSI have decreased over the last decade, meanwhile the
> number of those using a mobile phone have increased exponentially even
> in the years the KSI figures have reached record lows. All of this is
> occurring as the total billion km travelled per year and number of
> registered cars keeps on climbing. So as a percentage, the risk factor
> drops off a cliff to the point that it is statistically insignificant.
> Yes it isn't clever and neither are a lot of other things people do
> whilst driving but the figures prove that it isn't the death dealer the
> government would like you to believe. It is merely something else the
> govt can use as a revenue generator.
> I'm not prejudiced. I hate everyone equally.
Lies, Damned Lies and statistics - fact remains there have been
numerous tragedies on the road where it's been proven that mobile
phone use was a major factor, in other words if the mobile was taken
out of the equation then the tragedy would have been avoided - it's
all very well expecting folk to make a decision on whether to take or
make a call based on if it's safe to do so or not, but the sad thing
is that there are just so many drivers on the road who just aren't
very bright and think it's fine to compose a text while driving up the
high street. ....revenue generator, or a tax on stupidity?
From: Brimstone on 14 Mar 2010 10:01
"NM" <nik.morgan(a)mac.com> wrote in message
> On 14 Mar, 10:25, damduck-...(a)yahoo.co.uk wrote:
>> On Sun, 14 Mar 2010 01:43:38 -0800 (PST), NM <nik.mor...(a)mac.com>
>> >On 14 Mar, 09:36, "Mr. Benn" <nos...(a)invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> >> When are people going to get the message?
>> >> Even hands-free calling can be a distraction to driving but using only
>> >> one
>> >> hand to steer a 1+ tonne vehicle is madness.
>> >Earlier this morning I was steering my 44 tonne Scania with one finger
>> >on the wheel. Sometimes, especially on deeply rutted motorways like
>> >those commonly found in Belgium there is no need to hold the wheel
>> >once it's in the ruts it behaves like a train,
>> Does this mean that you are arriving late and you cargo has to be
>> unloaded onto another vehicle to get around some road repairs?
> No, it's not exactly the same as a train, it's far more comfortable,
> quieter and much more reliable.
And there's no one to do the driving.
From: furnessvale on 14 Mar 2010 10:01
On Mar 14, 1:31ï¿½pm, Conor <co...(a)gmx.co.uk> wrote:
> On 14/03/2010 09:36, Mr. Benn wrote:>http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1257809/Record-number-motoris...
> > When are people going to get the message?
> What message?
> > Even hands-free calling can be a distraction to driving but using only one
> > hand to steer a 1+ tonne vehicle is madness.
> Yet the statistics prove otherwise. The KSI figures are unchanged year
> on year so therefore mobile phone usage isn't as dangerous as people
> have been claiming.
Perhaps other factors are improving but phone use is stopping an even
more dramatic improvement in KSI figures. Then again, the best
improver of KSI figures is stationary traffic so I am all in favour of
traffic jams, the more the merrier:-)
From: Dave S. on 14 Mar 2010 10:32
"Mr. Benn" <nospam(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message
> When are people going to get the message?
> Even hands-free calling can be a distraction to driving but using only one
> hand to steer a 1+ tonne vehicle is madness.
People ARE getting the message - and answering, hence the problem!
From: Conor on 14 Mar 2010 10:33
On 14/03/2010 13:48, oldMaxim wrote:
> Lies, Damned Lies and statistics - fact remains there have been
> numerous tragedies on the road where it's been proven that mobile
> phone use was a major factor,
Like the speeding ones on country roads yet when pushed, the Police
admitted speeding was only the contributing factor in 4%?
> in other words if the mobile was taken
> out of the equation then the tragedy would have been avoided
How do you know it would have? The simple fact is that you can't as a
judge agreed when that Asian MP was aquitted.
I'm not prejudiced. I hate everyone equally.