From: Conor on
On 22/03/2010 09:33, Ret. wrote:

> One of the pieces of university research

.....from a country with 3x the number of accidents per capita....

> stated that the majority of
> accidents caused by mobile phone using drivers during the research was
> rear-end shunts. The drivers were so engrossed in their conversations
> that they did not notice that the cars in front had slowed down. By the
> time they did notice - braking was too late and the shunt occurred.
>

...Because they were Americans..


> It simply seems so obvious to me.

The figures disagree.



> Most rear end shunts result in damage
> only accidents and so no serious investigation will take place into the
> cause at all.

Most rear end shunts occur at junctions because the driver behind fails
to ensure the driver in front has moved off.

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From: Conor on
On 22/03/2010 12:06, Ret. wrote:

> The cause of collisions will be recorded *if* they are known, and *if*
> the police attend.
>

Why are the figures a record low year on year?

> If, however, numerous pieces of research demonstrate that drivers using
> a mobile phone have reduced hazard perception, and delayed response to
> situations requiring a response, surely it makes sense to take action to
> deal with that?
>

But you claimed it was lower than DD? The statistics disagree.

There were no mobile phones in 1926. There are fewer KSI than there were
in 1926. Explain.


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From: Conor on
On 22/03/2010 12:07, Ret. wrote:

> I'm sure that they can find simpler ways of obtaining headlines. In any
> case, do you really think that university researchers are likely to bow
> to demands to falsify their findings?
>

East Anglia University Climate Research Unit did.


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From: Conor on
On 22/03/2010 12:12, Ret. wrote:

>>> Because mobile phones have been shown to be particularly distracting
>>> - and far more than most other normal distractions.
>>
>> Bollocks.
>
> That is what the research shows. Disbelieve it if you want.
>
Research either done in the US or paid for by a body with a financial
interest in it being proven.

> Clearly you cannot legislate to ban *everything* that is risky whilst
> driving - but it makes sense to legislate to ban specific acts that have
> been demonstrated to be 'particularly' distracting.
>

So when is talking to passengers going to be banned? How do you police
that?

Perhaps we should ban car stereos too.


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From: Conor on
On 22/03/2010 13:30, Ret. wrote:

> But the existing legislation did not provide the necessary deterrent for
> this particularly risky practice did it?
>
>

And how well has the new offence for mobile phone use whilst driving
worked as a deterrent?


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