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From: Conor on 23 Mar 2010 15:08 On 23/03/2010 11:02, Ret. wrote: > Conor wrote: >> On 22/03/2010 16:00, Ret. wrote: >> >>> And even if they did attend - how would they know that the driver had >>> been using a mobile phone? >>> >> >> Simple. Call history - either on the phone or from the mobile phone >> network. > > But as I have stated before - for minor shunts it is simply not worth > the effort. > So you're saying coppers are lazy? -- Conor I'm not prejudiced. I hate everyone equally.
From: Conor on 23 Mar 2010 15:10 On 23/03/2010 11:04, Ret. wrote: > Conor wrote: >> On 22/03/2010 09:33, Ret. wrote: >> >>> One of the pieces of university research >> >> ....from a country with 3x the number of accidents per capita.... >> >>> stated that the majority of >>> accidents caused by mobile phone using drivers during the research >>> was rear-end shunts. The drivers were so engrossed in their >>> conversations that they did not notice that the cars in front had >>> slowed down. By the time they did notice - braking was too late and >>> the shunt occurred. >> >> ..Because they were Americans.. >> >> >>> It simply seems so obvious to me. >> >> The figures disagree. > > And yet, elsewhere, I have pasted several articles where lorry drivers > have done just that - even when the stopped vehicles could be seen from > half a mile in advance. Maybe those lorry drivers thought like you - > that they could do two things at once efficiently? > > Kev Yes, several articles. How many people do it on a regular basis? As I said, the figures prove differently. You're claiming itis a major danger and more dangerous than drink driving yet the figures prove otherwise even though millions do it. -- Conor I'm not prejudiced. I hate everyone equally.
From: Conor on 23 Mar 2010 15:12 On 23/03/2010 11:09, Ret. wrote: > Conor wrote: >> On 22/03/2010 12:06, Ret. wrote: >> >>> The cause of collisions will be recorded *if* they are known, and >>> *if* the police attend. >>> >> >> Why are the figures a record low year on year? > > My argument would be that UK roads are becoming so congested that > traffic is moving slower and slower, and overtaking, one of the riskiest > of manoeuvres, is almost impossible on many roads today because the > quantity of opposing traffic. > Congestion went down over the last two years due to the downturn in the economy. >> >>> If, however, numerous pieces of research demonstrate that drivers >>> using a mobile phone have reduced hazard perception, and delayed >>> response to situations requiring a response, surely it makes sense >>> to take action to deal with that? >>> >> >> But you claimed it was lower than DD? The statistics disagree. > > I haven't claimed anything - I've merely linked to research that shows > that. > Which you claimed was correct. >> >> There were no mobile phones in 1926. There are fewer KSI than there >> were in 1926. Explain. > > See above. Vast improvement in car design and crash protection. Vast > increase in traffic congestion. Introduction of speed cameras that has > definitely reduced serious speeding. > BWAHAHA. Speed cameras have done SOD ALL to reduce speeding except in the 100 yards either side of them. I still see people hooning up the motorway at 100MPH on a regular basis. -- Conor I'm not prejudiced. I hate everyone equally.
From: Conor on 23 Mar 2010 15:12 On 23/03/2010 11:11, Ret. wrote: >> I've tried driving simulators. They're completely unrealistic. No >> feedback. > > Whatever. However, the performance of a driver on a simulator not using > a mobile can certainly be compared to the performance of a driver on a > simulator using a mobile can't it? > No. -- Conor I'm not prejudiced. I hate everyone equally.
From: Conor on 23 Mar 2010 15:13
On 23/03/2010 11:14, Ret. wrote: > Because all current police vehicles have hands-free kits ....assuming the copper actually uses it.... and merely > shouting out 'Left into Balmoral Road', is not the same as having a > conversation. > I've watched the fuckers on telly bombing through urban areas chasing some scrote with one hand on the wheel and the other on their PMR keying it up. -- Conor I'm not prejudiced. I hate everyone equally. |