From: Conor on
On 23/03/2010 11:02, Ret. wrote:
> Conor wrote:
>> On 22/03/2010 16:00, Ret. wrote:
>>
>>> And even if they did attend - how would they know that the driver had
>>> been using a mobile phone?
>>>
>>
>> Simple. Call history - either on the phone or from the mobile phone
>> network.
>
> But as I have stated before - for minor shunts it is simply not worth
> the effort.
>

So you're saying coppers are lazy?


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From: Conor on
On 23/03/2010 11:04, Ret. wrote:
> Conor wrote:
>> On 22/03/2010 09:33, Ret. wrote:
>>
>>> One of the pieces of university research
>>
>> ....from a country with 3x the number of accidents per capita....
>>
>>> stated that the majority of
>>> accidents caused by mobile phone using drivers during the research
>>> was rear-end shunts. The drivers were so engrossed in their
>>> conversations that they did not notice that the cars in front had
>>> slowed down. By the time they did notice - braking was too late and
>>> the shunt occurred.
>>
>> ..Because they were Americans..
>>
>>
>>> It simply seems so obvious to me.
>>
>> The figures disagree.
>
> And yet, elsewhere, I have pasted several articles where lorry drivers
> have done just that - even when the stopped vehicles could be seen from
> half a mile in advance. Maybe those lorry drivers thought like you -
> that they could do two things at once efficiently?
>
> Kev

Yes, several articles. How many people do it on a regular basis?

As I said, the figures prove differently. You're claiming itis a major
danger and more dangerous than drink driving yet the figures prove
otherwise even though millions do it.

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From: Conor on
On 23/03/2010 11:09, Ret. wrote:
> Conor wrote:
>> On 22/03/2010 12:06, Ret. wrote:
>>
>>> The cause of collisions will be recorded *if* they are known, and
>>> *if* the police attend.
>>>
>>
>> Why are the figures a record low year on year?
>
> My argument would be that UK roads are becoming so congested that
> traffic is moving slower and slower, and overtaking, one of the riskiest
> of manoeuvres, is almost impossible on many roads today because the
> quantity of opposing traffic.
>

Congestion went down over the last two years due to the downturn in the
economy.

>>
>>> If, however, numerous pieces of research demonstrate that drivers
>>> using a mobile phone have reduced hazard perception, and delayed
>>> response to situations requiring a response, surely it makes sense
>>> to take action to deal with that?
>>>
>>
>> But you claimed it was lower than DD? The statistics disagree.
>
> I haven't claimed anything - I've merely linked to research that shows
> that.
>

Which you claimed was correct.

>>
>> There were no mobile phones in 1926. There are fewer KSI than there
>> were in 1926. Explain.
>
> See above. Vast improvement in car design and crash protection. Vast
> increase in traffic congestion. Introduction of speed cameras that has
> definitely reduced serious speeding.
>

BWAHAHA. Speed cameras have done SOD ALL to reduce speeding except in
the 100 yards either side of them. I still see people hooning up the
motorway at 100MPH on a regular basis.


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From: Conor on
On 23/03/2010 11:11, Ret. wrote:

>> I've tried driving simulators. They're completely unrealistic. No
>> feedback.
>
> Whatever. However, the performance of a driver on a simulator not using
> a mobile can certainly be compared to the performance of a driver on a
> simulator using a mobile can't it?
>

No.



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From: Conor on
On 23/03/2010 11:14, Ret. wrote:

> Because all current police vehicles have hands-free kits

....assuming the copper actually uses it....


and merely
> shouting out 'Left into Balmoral Road', is not the same as having a
> conversation.
>

I've watched the fuckers on telly bombing through urban areas chasing
some scrote with one hand on the wheel and the other on their PMR keying
it up.

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