From: bugo on


"Matthew Russotto" <russotto(a)grace.speakeasy.net> wrote in message
news:Jiq3o.31778$4B7.23603(a)newsfe16.iad...
> In article <i2irg8$71v$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
> bugo <watuzi(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>What's the difference? They refuse to pay for health care, which is the
>>same thing as murder as far as I'm concerned.
>
> Then you're an idiot.

Why am I an idiot? Elaborate.

From: Matthew Russotto on
In article <i2lbjo$o66$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
bugo <watuzi(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>"Matthew Russotto" <russotto(a)grace.speakeasy.net> wrote in message
>news:Jiq3o.31778$4B7.23603(a)newsfe16.iad...
>> In article <i2irg8$71v$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
>> bugo <watuzi(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>What's the difference? They refuse to pay for health care, which is the
>>>same thing as murder as far as I'm concerned.
>>
>> Then you're an idiot.
>
>Why am I an idiot? Elaborate.

Because you claim that refusing to pay for health care is the same
thing as murder. That's an idiotic statement.
--
The problem with socialism is there's always
someone with less ability and more need.
From: Dave Head on
On 27 Jul 2010 01:28:59 GMT, Michael Coburn <mikcob(a)verizon.net>
wrote:

>On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:22:47 -0700, Larry G wrote:
>
>> On Jul 25, 9:27�pm, Dave Head <rally...(a)att.net> wrote:
>>> On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 20:13:26 -0500, "bugo" <wat...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> >"Dave Head" <rally...(a)att.net> wrote in message
>>> >news:bhnp46teki6ftfe9lco9p88sg7a567u28m(a)4ax.com...
>>> >> The Fair Tax is applied as a sales tax on new items and services
>>> >> sold at retail. �Things sold at wholesale, or for use in commerce,
>>> >> are not taxed. �So, Farmer Brown's seed stock for the year is not
>>> >> taxed, nor is his tractor. �The corn you buy from him is taxed since
>>> >> it is sold to you at retail. �Every new item and every service, save
>>> >> one, is taxed. �The only service not taxed is tuition.
>>>
>>> >So corporations get off scot-free.
>>>
>>> They always have. �No corporation has ever paid a penny of tax. They've
>>> just passed that expense along to the rest of us who buy their
>>> products, and we pay it. �THe corporation simply ends up being a tax
>>> collector, to the detriment of Ameican industrial competitiveness.
>>>
>>> >No wonder why you corporate-loving Repubs like it so much.
>>>
>>> Why would you not be "corporate-loving." �Where else do you think
>>> you're going to get the good jobs to raise people out of poverty?
>>>
>>> >In your distorted world, corporations can do no wrong.
>>>
>>> Didn't say that, but that's no reason to hate them all because some of
>>> them do really nasty stuff.
>>
>> corps just pass on the taxes to the customers... that's true.
>
>Nope.

Absolutely. The customer is the only source of money a corporation
has. Its the only place that the tax money can come from.

If you didn't pay it from revenues from sales, then you'd have to pay
it by lowering worker salaries, failing to pay dividends, etc. That'd
harm the company, and it'd probably, eventually, go out of business.
From: bugo on


"Matthew Russotto" <russotto(a)grace.speakeasy.net> wrote in message
news:Yzq3o.31783$4B7.24442(a)newsfe16.iad...
> In article <i2lbjo$o66$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
> bugo <watuzi(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>"Matthew Russotto" <russotto(a)grace.speakeasy.net> wrote in message
>>news:Jiq3o.31778$4B7.23603(a)newsfe16.iad...
>>> In article <i2irg8$71v$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
>>> bugo <watuzi(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>What's the difference? They refuse to pay for health care, which is the
>>>>same thing as murder as far as I'm concerned.
>>>
>>> Then you're an idiot.
>>
>>Why am I an idiot? Elaborate.
>
> Because you claim that refusing to pay for health care is the same
> thing as murder. That's an idiotic statement.

What's the difference? If you're dead, you're dead. It's at least
manslaughter.

From: Beam Me Up Scotty on
On 7/26/2010 9:28 PM, Michael Coburn wrote:
> On Mon, 26 Jul 2010 15:22:47 -0700, Larry G wrote:
>
>> On Jul 25, 9:27 pm, Dave Head <rally...(a)att.net> wrote:
>>> On Sun, 25 Jul 2010 20:13:26 -0500, "bugo" <wat...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> "Dave Head" <rally...(a)att.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:bhnp46teki6ftfe9lco9p88sg7a567u28m(a)4ax.com...
>>>>> The Fair Tax is applied as a sales tax on new items and services
>>>>> sold at retail. Things sold at wholesale, or for use in commerce,
>>>>> are not taxed. So, Farmer Brown's seed stock for the year is not
>>>>> taxed, nor is his tractor. The corn you buy from him is taxed since
>>>>> it is sold to you at retail. Every new item and every service, save
>>>>> one, is taxed. The only service not taxed is tuition.
>>>
>>>> So corporations get off scot-free.
>>>
>>> They always have. No corporation has ever paid a penny of tax. They've
>>> just passed that expense along to the rest of us who buy their
>>> products, and we pay it. THe corporation simply ends up being a tax
>>> collector, to the detriment of Ameican industrial competitiveness.
>>>
>>>> No wonder why you corporate-loving Repubs like it so much.
>>>
>>> Why would you not be "corporate-loving." Where else do you think
>>> you're going to get the good jobs to raise people out of poverty?
>>>
>>>> In your distorted world, corporations can do no wrong.
>>>
>>> Didn't say that, but that's no reason to hate them all because some of
>>> them do really nasty stuff.
>>
>> corps just pass on the taxes to the customers... that's true.
>
> Nope.

Explain what source the corporation's tax money comes from if it isn't
coming from the customer.

Did they get a government grant to pay the tax or did the corporation
print the money to pay the tax?

The end result of a tax on corporations is that the customer pays the
money when they buy the toaster.... and the tax is "in" the cost of the
toaster.


Similar to a VAT, the corporate tax is hidden in the things the customer
buys.

That's why I call Obama's NEW VAT tax VAT^2 because essentially it will
be a VAT on what already is a VAT.

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