From: bugo on
"Dave Head" <rally2xs(a)att.net> wrote in message
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> Those are income taxes, and would go away with the repeal of the 13th
> Amendment. Not only that, they are HIGHLY REGRESSIVE income taxes,
> that take 7.65% out of the pay of even someone making $5K/yr, it
> doesn't matter how little you make, that 7.65% happens. It also take
> another 7.65% out of what the employer is supposed to cough up, which
> incentivizes him to find workers overseas.

Let me guess: you're one of those "fair tax" nutjobs. The "fair tax" would
result in a higher tax burden for the poor and middle class and a lower tax
burden for the rich and corporations. I guarantee the fair tax would be
higher than 7.65% so you can throw that argument right out the window. The
fair tax is indeed not fair because a gallon of milk costs the same whether
you're a billionaire or if you're barely scraping by. And you can only
drink one gallon at a time. Much higher tax burden for the poor and middle
class. It's telling that they call it the "fair tax" when it's anything but
fair. Typical Orwellian doublespeak. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is
strength. War is peace.

From: bugo on
"Dave Head" <rally2xs(a)att.net> wrote in message
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> Kill the income tax, make everyone prosperous, then they won't need
> it.

I wish I had such a simple, dumbed down, black and white worldview. It
would be a lot easier than seeing the world as a complex thing.

From: bugo on
"Dave Head" <rally2xs(a)att.net> wrote in message
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> We do need to not be in so many places around the world, but we have
> to make up our minds whether we're OK with Red China absorbing Tiawan
> against their will, N. Korea conquering S. Korea, the Taliban taking
> over Afganistan, etc. Can we apply the nuclear shield to everything -
> you harbor terrorists and attack us, we're going to respond by
> reducing your sad little country to a border to border, glass paved,
> self-lighting parking lot.

News flash: the Taliban is in charge of Afghanistan. They have been for at
least ten years, despite the US military presence. And they will be in
charge after the military is gone. The Afghan war has been a huge failure.

From: bugo on
"Dave Head" <rally2xs(a)att.net> wrote in message
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> They'll do what rich people do with money - use it to make more money.
> That's generally done by manufacturing things, which just provides
> more jobs to the rest of us.

No, they'll horde the money like they already do.

>>Half our problem is the rich want to be richer,
>
> Duh... everybody wants to be richer...

Not true. Many persons are perfectly happy with the amount of money that
they have. And another news flash: many of them aren't wealthy at all.

Greed isn't a universal condition.

>>even if it means taxing the poor more. I think it's one percent
>>of the households in the US control almost half the wealth.
>
> Yep, its the result of the income tax chasing out the good jobs to
> overseas and cross border locations, so the employees have been making
> less and less money and more and more crappy jobs.

No, it is deregulation that has shipped the jobs overseas. Make it a
federal crime to outsource jobs or at least increase the tariffs on imported
goods to a level that it is counterproductive to ship jobs overseas.

>>Wal-Marts CEO makes the equivalent of $10,000 an hour while most
>>Assocuates
>>barely make minimum wage.
>
> Yep. Its retail. That is highly competetive and doesn't produce any
> wealth. Wealth is produced 3 ways - Agriculture, Mining, and
> Manufacturing. Other businesses tend to be poor in comparison.

Our farms have been taken over by corporations. Our manufacturing base has
been sent overseas.

>>It's all about corporate greed, but that's OK by most Republicans.
>
> What's with the "corporate greed" hate speech? That is just silly.
> EVERYBODY is greedy - wants more - so what? If you don't want more,
> you're probably dead.

As I said, not everybody is greedy. Not everyone lives in your world. Some
of us just want simple lives, not extravagant palaces and 20 BMWs, Some of
us are happy with a modest house and a modest car.

> Just wait. You're in for a shock when you see a loved one pass on
> that could otherwise have been saved, but they were "too old" to spend
> the money on for the liver transplant, or whatever. Or maybe you'll
> get to 90 years old, and they won't replace your knee 'cuz you're "too
> old" and you get to sit in a wheel chair for the rest of your life.

That kind of stuff goes on today, but it's the insurance companies rather
than the government making these decisions. Why is it so bad to you for
government to make those decisions while it's fine and dandy for the corrupt
criminal insurance companies to make the same decisions? That's something
that no right-winger has been able to answer.

From: bugo on
"Beam Me Up Scotty" <Then-Destroy-Everything(a)Blackhole.NebulaX.com> wrote in
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> Schools YES.... it's MY education, it's not the nations, nor is it
> constitutional. Roads are in the constitution as a mandate that the
> post office make roads for postal use. But we all know how well the Post
> Office works.

You just want more ignorant, uneducated Repub voters.