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From: Scott Dorsey on 8 Nov 2009 08:40 Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer(a)cs.nmsu.edu> wrote: >Sorry, I guess I forgot a smiley. I've got exactly two applications >that force me to run Windows in a virtual machine environment: a >schematic diagram drawing program and PCB layout program needed to >submit work to expresspcb.com, an extremely inexpensive source for small >numbers of custom PC boards. Anybody got a comparable source that will >take a gerber file? There are a bunch of them out there. Start with the ads in the back of AudioXPress magazine. Most of them do the same thing expresspcb.com does, and batch up hundreds of boards together in one run. Some of them send them to China, though, so you have a week or two turnaround, but you usually save bigtime in the process. Thing is, I like the expresspcb.com layout program a lot. It's nowhere near as cumbersome as Eagle... but Eagle will run on Unix boxes... --scott -- "C'est un Nagra. C'est suisse, et tres, tres precis."
From: Joe Pfeiffer on 8 Nov 2009 12:17 kludge(a)panix.com (Scott Dorsey) writes: > Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer(a)cs.nmsu.edu> wrote: >>Sorry, I guess I forgot a smiley. I've got exactly two applications >>that force me to run Windows in a virtual machine environment: a >>schematic diagram drawing program and PCB layout program needed to >>submit work to expresspcb.com, an extremely inexpensive source for small >>numbers of custom PC boards. Anybody got a comparable source that will >>take a gerber file? > > There are a bunch of them out there. Start with the ads in the back of > AudioXPress magazine. Most of them do the same thing expresspcb.com does, > and batch up hundreds of boards together in one run. Some of them send > them to China, though, so you have a week or two turnaround, but you > usually save bigtime in the process. I've been looking (mostly in the back of Circuit Cellar), but haven't come across one really comparable: send off the layout and my credit card number, 2 days (IIRC) and ~$75 later (including shipping) I've got three circuit boards on my doorstep. All the others I've come across seem to want to go through a "request a quote" step, or have a setup charge, or something... > Thing is, I like the expresspcb.com layout program a lot. It's nowhere > near as cumbersome as Eagle... but Eagle will run on Unix boxes... Their schematic program, their layout program, and especially the linking between the two, is really nice. -- As we enjoy great advantages from the inventions of others, we should be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours; and this we should do freely and generously. (Benjamin Franklin)
From: Bill Putney on 8 Nov 2009 12:55 Joe Pfeiffer wrote: > kludge(a)panix.com (Scott Dorsey) writes: > >> Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer(a)cs.nmsu.edu> wrote: >>> Sorry, I guess I forgot a smiley. I've got exactly two applications >>> that force me to run Windows in a virtual machine environment: a >>> schematic diagram drawing program and PCB layout program needed to >>> submit work to expresspcb.com, an extremely inexpensive source for small >>> numbers of custom PC boards. Anybody got a comparable source that will >>> take a gerber file? >> There are a bunch of them out there. Start with the ads in the back of >> AudioXPress magazine. Most of them do the same thing expresspcb.com does, >> and batch up hundreds of boards together in one run. Some of them send >> them to China, though, so you have a week or two turnaround, but you >> usually save bigtime in the process. > > I've been looking (mostly in the back of Circuit Cellar), but haven't > come across one really comparable: send off the layout and my credit > card number, 2 days (IIRC) and ~$75 later (including shipping) I've got > three circuit boards on my doorstep. All the others I've come across > seem to want to go through a "request a quote" step, or have a setup > charge, or something... > >> Thing is, I like the expresspcb.com layout program a lot. It's nowhere >> near as cumbersome as Eagle... but Eagle will run on Unix boxes... > > Their schematic program, their layout program, and especially the > linking between the two, is really nice. I also have been using expresspcb.com. Great for low quantity boards as you said. That reminds me - I have a defective board to talk to them about. First one I've had, so I don't know how they're going to handle it. Too much set up to make just one board, so I suspect they will just refund the incremental cost that I paid for the one board. -- Bill Putney (To reply by e-mail, replace the last letter of the alphabet in my address with the letter 'x')
From: Steve on 11 Nov 2009 11:04 Joe Pfeiffer wrote: > Different industry, different priorities. Almost none of the Y2K > problem was in control systems, embedded systems, or the like (a > mailling list I'm on was considering creating "Certified Y2K compliant" > stickers to put on our pre-electronic engine management cars. I remember that ;-) Didn't someone actually make up a few stickers? Its certainly true that Y2K had no affect whatsoever on my Carter AVS carburetors....
From: Steve on 11 Nov 2009 11:10
hls wrote: > > Microsoft was thought to be the cream of the crop by many people. Glad I don't know any of those people.... Don't get me wrong, I'm not a feral Microsoft hater. Some of their products have surprised me (a properly configured version of Windows Embedded, for example, that will boot in <20 seconds on a 500 MHz embedded processor, run for months on end, supports very easy development, and has a tiny footprint- so far we haven't been able to match all that with Linux for this application) But "cream of the crop?" Egads. What a narrow view of the software world THAT must be! |