From: Noddy on 4 Apr 2010 05:56
"John McKenzie" <jmac_melbourne(a)bigpond.com> wrote in message
> I might offer the comparison - go to an engine machinist amd get work
> done at a particular rate, whatehaveyou. But go to someone who is at the
> cutting edge of head porting and engine building, to build a competitive
> race engine, you aren't just (effectively) paying for the parts and
> labour/machining time. To be a top of the field engine builder, they
> have to do some fairly relentless R&D work, and obviously that
> experience/knowledge/research is factored in to the price.
A mate of mine who used to be a Pro Stock racer years ago now builds engines
from home in his pretty God Damned elaborate "garage" (I call it a "garage"
but it's more like a hospital surgical unit that has an 18 car capacity).
Engines are his full time job keeping him fairly busy, and his average price
for a turn key unit is a hundred grand.
From: Scotty on 4 Apr 2010 06:35
"atec7 7" <""atec77 \"@ hotmail.com"> wrote in message
: Scotty wrote:
: When I get your email I will forward a scan of his card and rates
You already have it and used it before. If you cant figure it out from my sig line well............
From: atec7 7 ""atec77 " on 4 Apr 2010 09:42
> "atec7 7" <""atec77 \"@ hotmail.com"> wrote in message
> : Scotty wrote:
> : When I get your email I will forward a scan of his card and rates
> You already have it and used it before. If you cant figure it out from my sig line well............
well if you don't want it
From: John_H on 4 Apr 2010 22:21
>"John_H" <john4721(a)inbox.com> wrote in message
>> Only when there's no insurance company involved... otherwise it's the
>> crash repairers who generally get screwed!
>> Not to miss an opportunity to reverse the situation when they see one,
>> it's a fair guess that most of their large jobs are insurance related
>> whereas the smaller ones that aren't get costed rather differently. :)
>When I worked for the Honda dealership there was a large crash repairer in
>St.Kilda who would order shitloads of parts every time he got a bent Honda
>in for repair. If a car got hit in the left rear for example, he'd request a
>parts interpreter go down to his shop with his microfilms for the relevant
>model, and he'd order just about every part on that corner of the car. Once
>the assessor had approved the quote he'd send three quarters of it back, and
>no doubt pocket the extra.
The insurance assessors must be getting slack, as well as the owners
who sign off on the repairs! :)
A similar ruse was to swap parts from another identical model that'd
been bent at the opposite end... eg swap and repair a boot lid with a
straight one off a car that was in for front end repairs. Those who
engaged in such activities usually argued it was the only way they
could make their business pay.
It's been years since I've had connections in the trade but a common
complaint was labour rates being cut to the bone by insurance
companies who also insisted on secondhand panels and parts for cars
that weren't current models. One bloke I knew worked on his own and
never did insurance jobs because he reckoned they didn't pay (possibly
only because he was dead honest) yet his work was first class and dirt
cheap in comparison with a typical crash repair shop that loaded the
price of private jobs.
From: Noddy on 5 Apr 2010 00:20
"hippo" <am9obmhAc2hvYWwubmV0LmF1(a)REGISTERED_USER_usenet.com.au> wrote in
> Lucky you weren't a Jeep agent then hey? ;)
IN fact, I left the new car dealership scene because I didn't like the
bullshit way the customers were treated with the utmost contempt. It
interfered with my sleep patterns too much.