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From: Adrian on 18 May 2010 04:00 Stephen Bagwell <stephenb1963uk(a)gmail.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying: > How many less tonnes of carbon dioxide have been produced because of > Americans driving hybrid Toyota and Lexus cars? Compared to what? (Total non-sequitur ignored for the moment)
From: GT on 18 May 2010 10:12 "Stephen Bagwell" <stephenb1963uk(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:64e924ac-567f-416b-8535-f33a93475a9c(a)y12g2000vbg.googlegroups.com... > On 18 May, 07:38, "Dr Zoidberg" <AlexNOOOOO!!!...@drzoidberg.co.uk> > wrote: >> "Doug" <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote in message >> >> news:d8bdc850-99ec-4854-8be9-11440c280fa7(a)m33g2000vbi.googlegroups.com... >> > > How many less tonnes of carbon dioxide have been produced because of > Americans driving hybrid Toyota and Lexus cars? None. Where do people think the electricity comes from??? Also - where do they think the car comes from??? The answer to both of these is 'a factory that puts out lots of nasty black smoke'.
From: Mrcheerful on 18 May 2010 10:16 GT wrote: > "Stephen Bagwell" <stephenb1963uk(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > news:64e924ac-567f-416b-8535-f33a93475a9c(a)y12g2000vbg.googlegroups.com... >> On 18 May, 07:38, "Dr Zoidberg" <AlexNOOOOO!!!...@drzoidberg.co.uk> >> wrote: >>> "Doug" <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote in message >>> >>> news:d8bdc850-99ec-4854-8be9-11440c280fa7(a)m33g2000vbi.googlegroups.com... >>> >> >> How many less tonnes of carbon dioxide have been produced because of >> Americans driving hybrid Toyota and Lexus cars? > > None. > > Where do people think the electricity comes from??? > Also - where do they think the car comes from??? > The answer to both of these is 'a factory that puts out lots of nasty > black smoke'. same as the factories that build bicycles, only most of those are in China where the laws on pollution are less strict, so the emissions are much worse.
From: GT on 18 May 2010 10:16 "Doug" <jagmad(a)riseup.net> wrote in message news:d8bdc850-99ec-4854-8be9-11440c280fa7(a)m33g2000vbi.googlegroups.com... >I am glad that the motorists on these newsgroups have finally accepted > that cars are much more destructive and dangerous than bicycles. Did *you* really think that a bicycle would do more damage to a brick wall than a car? If everyone used bicycles, then very few people would make it to work. Industry and commerce would completely fail and the economy would collapse horribly. If you are able to go about your day on a bicycle, then good for you, but it doesn't suit everyone: How do you propose that I get my 2 children to school and then myself to work 40 miles away, on a bicycle, in 40 minutes?
From: boltar2003 on 18 May 2010 10:17
On Tue, 18 May 2010 15:12:50 +0100 "GT" <a(a)b.c> wrote: >"Stephen Bagwell" <stephenb1963uk(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >news:64e924ac-567f-416b-8535-f33a93475a9c(a)y12g2000vbg.googlegroups.com... >> On 18 May, 07:38, "Dr Zoidberg" <AlexNOOOOO!!!...@drzoidberg.co.uk> >> wrote: >>> "Doug" <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote in message >>> >>> news:d8bdc850-99ec-4854-8be9-11440c280fa7(a)m33g2000vbi.googlegroups.com... >>> >> >> How many less tonnes of carbon dioxide have been produced because of >> Americans driving hybrid Toyota and Lexus cars? > >None. > >Where do people think the electricity comes from??? Some of it comes from regenerative braking , the energy which otherwise would have just been lost as heat in the brakes. Also they save fuel by switching the engine off when it would otherwise be idling. Though if they had diesel engines instead of petrol they'd be a lot more efficient than they are at the moment. B2003 |