From: JNugent on
Doug wrote:
> I am glad that the motorists on these newsgroups have finally accepted
> that cars are much more destructive and dangerous than bicycles.
>
> Maybe motorists are looking to go into the demolition business
> judging by how many buildings they are trying to demolish these days.
> The latest example is here...
>
> "Denby Pottery restaurant crash driver released
>
> No-one was in the restaurant at the time
>
> An 18-year-old, who was arrested after the car he was driving crashed
> into the restaurant at Denby Pottery, has been released on bail..."
>
> More with pic:
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/derbyshire/8687737.stm

Are you sure it wasn't an example of performance art, on a level with
Banksy-styled criminal dam... er... I mean graffiti?
From: BrianW on
On May 18, 6:02�am, Doug <jag...(a)riseup.net> wrote:
> I am glad that the motorists on these newsgroups have finally accepted
> that cars are much more destructive and dangerous than bicycles.

I don't, Doug. I haven't seen enough evidence to support such an
assertion. Any chance you could post some examples, so I can consider
it further?
From: Adrian on
BrianW <brianwhitehead(a)hotmail.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like
they were saying:

>> I am glad that the motorists on these newsgroups have finally accepted
>> that cars are much more destructive and dangerous than bicycles.

> I don't, Doug. I haven't seen enough evidence to support such an
> assertion. Any chance you could post some examples, so I can consider
> it further?

How about we do a real-life comparison test? Would that satisfy you?

I'll drive a car into a solid wall, whilst Duhg rides a bike into a
similar building.

'course, for a fair test, it'd have to be from the same speed - as high
as possible, ideally. Duhg - what speed can you manage on your bike? We
can find a really steep hill if it's a help.

Hell, I'll even source a car, if somebody promises to video the result
and put it on YouTube.
From: boltar2003 on
On 18 May 2010 14:37:46 GMT
Adrian <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>boltar2003(a)boltar.world gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
>saying:
>
>>>> Though if they had diesel engines instead of petrol they'd be a lot
>>>> more efficient than they are at the moment.
>
>>>You seem to be forgetting the primary national markets of the current
>>>hybrids. And, of course, the "Is it or isn't it" over diesel vs petrol
>>>emissions.
>
>> Yes I know the yanks hate diesels and I can understand why. But going
>> purely by CO2 emmissions and mpg
>
>is as bloody silly and short-sighted as most such vague generalisations.

So which bit of the fact that diesels almost always have better mpg than
petrol engines for a given engine size and vehicle weight is confusing you?

B2003

From: boltar2003 on
On Tue, 18 May 2010 18:35:06 +0100
"Brimstone" <brimstone(a)hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> is as bloody silly and short-sighted as most such vague generalisations.
>>
>> Well if his statement is wrong, then perhaps you could explain exactly how
>> petrol is more efficient than diesel?
>Firstly, it will be necessary to define what is meant by "efficient".

The general meaning of "efficient" for internal combustion engines is the
amount of fuel it uses to do a given task. Unless you have a new one for us...

B2003