From: boltar2003 on
On 19 May 2010 14:29:47 GMT
Adrian <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>boltar2003(a)boltar.world gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
>saying:
>
>>>> No, I was simply talking about mpg which I don't think is a "vague"
>>>> measure of efficiency.
>
>>>Lean-burn. Ricardo. Discuss.
>
>> A dead technology for cars.
>
>Why?

Why ask me? Ask the car manufacturers.

B2003

From: Adrian on
boltar2003(a)boltar.world gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying:

>>>>> No, I was simply talking about mpg which I don't think is a "vague"
>>>>> measure of efficiency.

>>>>Lean-burn. Ricardo. Discuss.

>>> A dead technology for cars.

>>Why?

> Why ask me?

Because it's rather relevant to my point.

> Ask the car manufacturers.

No, I'm asking you, since you're the one who's claiming MPG and CO2 are
the only really important factors to "efficiency". Why did a technique
which was ready for production nearly 20 years ago, and would have
instantly resulted in damn near 50% fuel savings, suddenly disappear?

(Oh, and btw - it's not a "dead technology" - it's making a bit of a
comeback at the mo, but in a much reduced and significantly more complex
form. Why?)
From: boltar2003 on
On 19 May 2010 14:45:03 GMT
Adrian <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> A dead technology for cars.
>
>>>Why?
>
>> Why ask me?
>
>Because it's rather relevant to my point.

Its still not efficient as a diesel engine.

>> Ask the car manufacturers.
>
>No, I'm asking you, since you're the one who's claiming MPG and CO2 are

Fine , it didn't play nicely with catalytic converters.

>the only really important factors to "efficiency". Why did a technique

So what other factors are there in efficiency? Do tell...

>which was ready for production nearly 20 years ago, and would have
>instantly resulted in damn near 50% fuel savings, suddenly disappear?

50%? Rubbish. Maybe if you left the engine idling all day it might use
50% less than a normal petrol engine would but in normal running it wouldn't
get close to that.

B2003

From: Adrian on
boltar2003(a)boltar.world gurgled happily, sounding much like they were
saying:

>>> Ask the car manufacturers.

>>No, I'm asking you, since you're the one who's claiming MPG and CO2 are

> Fine , it didn't play nicely with catalytic converters.

Is the wrong answer.

>>the only really important factors to "efficiency". Why did a technique

> So what other factors are there in efficiency? Do tell...

Again?

>>which was ready for production nearly 20 years ago, and would have
>>instantly resulted in damn near 50% fuel savings, suddenly disappear?

> 50%? Rubbish. Maybe if you left the engine idling all day it might use
> 50% less than a normal petrol engine would but in normal running it
> wouldn't get close to that.

You don't even understand the basic concept behind lean burn, do you?
From: Adrian on
Adrian <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like they
were saying:

>>>which was ready for production nearly 20 years ago, and would have
>>>instantly resulted in damn near 50% fuel savings, suddenly disappear?

>> 50%? Rubbish. Maybe if you left the engine idling all day it might use
>> 50% less than a normal petrol engine would but in normal running it
>> wouldn't get close to that.

> You don't even understand the basic concept behind lean burn, do you?

(Yeh, yeh - my bad)

Clue: Stochiometry.