From: angela on
On 20 July, 19:11, JMS <jmsmith2...(a)live.co.uk > wrote:
> Road Casualties Great Britain Main Results: 2009 are out at the DfT
> webpages.
>
> Main Highlights are :
>
> Total road casualties down 4%
> Seriously injured down 6%
> Child casualties down 6%
> All pedestrian casualties down 6%
> Motor cycle casualties down 4%
>
> All good news - oh - there are a couple more:
>
> Number of seriously injured cyclists up 6%
> Total casualties among cyclists up 5%
>
> --
> Many cyclists are proving the need for registration by their contempt for the Highway Code and laws.
>
> The answer:
> All cyclists over 16 to take compulsory test, have compulsory insurance, and be registered.
> Registration number to be clearly visible on the back of mandatory hi-viz vest.
> Habitual law breakers' cycles confiscated and crushed.
> (With thanks to KeithT for the idea)

Cyclist deaths fell in 2009 to 104 from 138 in 2007-8. Cycling
increased and the death rate fell. Cars drivers need to have a licence
as they kill people. There was a drop in car journey’s that explains
the drop in deaths, I believe the overall death rate was 2,200 ish
From: john wright on
On 23/07/2010 09:38, angela wrote:
> On 20 July, 19:11, JMS<jmsmith2...(a)live.co.uk> wrote:
>> Road Casualties Great Britain Main Results: 2009 are out at the DfT
>> webpages.
>>
>> Main Highlights are :
>>
>> Total road casualties down 4%
>> Seriously injured down 6%
>> Child casualties down 6%
>> All pedestrian casualties down 6%
>> Motor cycle casualties down 4%
>>
>> All good news - oh - there are a couple more:
>>
>> Number of seriously injured cyclists up 6%
>> Total casualties among cyclists up 5%
>>
>> --
>> Many cyclists are proving the need for registration by their contempt for the Highway Code and laws.
>>
>> The answer:
>> All cyclists over 16 to take compulsory test, have compulsory insurance, and be registered.
>> Registration number to be clearly visible on the back of mandatory hi-viz vest.
>> Habitual law breakers' cycles confiscated and crushed.
>> (With thanks to KeithT for the idea)
>
> Cyclist deaths fell in 2009 to 104 from 138 in 2007-8. Cycling
> increased and the death rate fell. Cars drivers need to have a licence
> as they kill people.

Think of the numbers - 104 deaths cf 35 million car drivers alone. Ergo
a miniscule minority of drivers kill any cyclist. Its not just car
drivers that cause accidents - anyone is at risk of doing that, from
cyclists to HGV drivers. Not all risk results in harm though.

There is a strong correlation between the introduction of licences for
vehicle drivers and reduction in road deaths however. But that was a
long time ago when overall road deaths were much higher than they are today.



--
John Wright

Blasphemy - a victimless crime.
From: Peter Hill on
On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 19:11:44 +0100, JMS <jmsmith2010(a)live.co.uk >
wrote:

>- -
what sort of sig is this?

>Many cyclists are proving the need for registration by their contempt for the Highway Code and laws.
>
>The answer:
>All cyclists over 16 to take compulsory test, have compulsory insurance, and be registered.
>Registration number to be clearly visible on the back of mandatory hi-viz vest.
>Habitual law breakers' cycles confiscated and crushed.
>(With thanks to KeithT for the idea)

Why over 16? The age of criminal responsibility is 10. OK that might
be a bit young so say 12. All children under that age or anyone
without a full bike licence to be under radio control of a licensed
adult over 21, max 2 kids per adult.
--
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From: Adrian on
Peter Hill <peter.usenet1(a)nospam.demon.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding
much like they were saying:

>>The answer:
>>All cyclists over 16 to take compulsory test, have compulsory insurance,
>>and be registered. Registration number to be clearly visible on the back
>>of mandatory hi-viz vest. Habitual law breakers' cycles confiscated and
>>crushed. (With thanks to KeithT for the idea)

> Why over 16? The age of criminal responsibility is 10. OK that might be
> a bit young so say 12. All children under that age or anyone without a
> full bike licence to be under radio control of a licensed adult over 21,
> max 2 kids per adult.

Why have a minimum age at all?

If a kid is mature enough and competent enough to pass the test, let 'em
ride.
From: Mr. Benn on
"Tom Crispin" <kije.remove(a)this.bit.freeuk.com.munge> wrote in message
news:oq3c46lfunacvnmfbhemudussqteremk2e(a)4ax.com...
> On 20 Jul 2010 20:31:16 GMT, Adrian <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Tom Crispin <kije.remove(a)this.bit.freeuk.com.munge> gurgled happily,
>>sounding much like they were saying:
>>
>>> Sadly, in 2009, there was the first child cyclist fatality in London
>>> since 2004. A young lad was killed by a policeman driving a fast moving
>>> police car, with lights but no siren, as the child was cycling across a
>>> pedestrian crossing.
>>
>>It would probably be inappropriate to ask why somebody was cycling across
>>a pedestrian crossing, wouldn't it?
>
> Presumably to get to the other side of the road

PEDESTRIAN crossing. Not cyclist crossing unless the cyclist was pushing
his/her bicycle.

Is it legal to cycle over a pedestrian crossing? Genuine question.