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From: Nick Finnigan on 24 Jul 2010 05:43 Mr. Benn wrote: > > PEDESTRIAN crossing. Not cyclist crossing unless the cyclist was pushing > his/her bicycle. > > Is it legal to cycle over a pedestrian crossing? Genuine question. If it crosses a carriageway, yes - or drive, or ride on horseback. However, if it is a zebra then traffic does not have to stop for you.
From: nmm1 on 24 Jul 2010 06:09 In article <i2eck3$e3r$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Nick Finnigan <nix(a)genie.co.uk> wrote: >Mr. Benn wrote: >> >> PEDESTRIAN crossing. Not cyclist crossing unless the cyclist was pushing >> his/her bicycle. >> >> Is it legal to cycle over a pedestrian crossing? Genuine question. > > If it crosses a carriageway, yes - or drive, or ride on horseback. >However, if it is a zebra then traffic does not have to stop for you. NO!!! There is a specific offence of riding over a zebra crossing, or at least used to be. Note "riding" - you are allowed to push or carry. I have no idea for how many other others riding is illegal, as distinct from not counting as using the crossing, or even simply being left undefined. There is so much contradictory law that it is impossible to keep track .... Regards, Nick Maclaren.
From: JNugent on 24 Jul 2010 06:26 nmm1(a)cam.ac.uk wrote: > In article <i2eck3$e3r$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, > Nick Finnigan <nix(a)genie.co.uk> wrote: >> Mr. Benn wrote: >>> PEDESTRIAN crossing. Not cyclist crossing unless the cyclist was pushing >>> his/her bicycle. >>> >>> Is it legal to cycle over a pedestrian crossing? Genuine question. >> If it crosses a carriageway, yes - or drive, or ride on horseback. >> However, if it is a zebra then traffic does not have to stop for you. > > NO!!! There is a specific offence of riding over a zebra crossing, > or at least used to be. Still is. It's a variant of cycling along the footway because it is not possible to cycle across a pedestrian-only crossing without committing that offence. If there is a "shared path" and a crossing designed with that in mind, it's different. But that is comparatively rare. > Note "riding" - you are allowed to push or > carry. I have no idea for how many other others riding is illegal, > as distinct from not counting as using the crossing, or even simply > being left undefined. Cycling across a zebra or pelicon (etc) is proma facie evidence of misuse of the footway. In essence, the position is no different for a cyclist from what it would be if a Lamborghini were driven along the footway and then turned onto a crossing to reach the footway on the other side of the carriageway. Additionally, as you imply, there is no requirement for road-users proceeding normally along the carriageway to give precedence on the crossing to anything but a pedestrian. Neither a cyclist nor the driver of a Lamborghini is a pedestrian whilst doing either thing. > There is so much contradictory law that it is > impossible to keep track .... Is there actually anyone who isn't aware that it is an offence to cycle along a footway, irrespective of final or intermediate destination?
From: Nick Finnigan on 24 Jul 2010 06:29 nmm1(a)cam.ac.uk wrote: > In article <i2eck3$e3r$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, > Nick Finnigan <nix(a)genie.co.uk> wrote: >> Mr. Benn wrote: >>> PEDESTRIAN crossing. Not cyclist crossing unless the cyclist was pushing >>> his/her bicycle. >>> >>> Is it legal to cycle over a pedestrian crossing? Genuine question. >> If it crosses a carriageway, yes - or drive, or ride on horseback. >> However, if it is a zebra then traffic does not have to stop for you. > > NO!!! There is a specific offence of riding over a zebra crossing, > or at least used to be. YES!!! http://www.opsi.gov.uk/si/si1997/240001-a.htm is the oldest I can find. > Note "riding" - you are allowed to push or > carry. I have no idea for how many other others riding is illegal, > as distinct from not counting as using the crossing, or even simply > being left undefined. There is so much contradictory law that it is > impossible to keep track .... Which laws might be interpreted as prohibiting ?
From: Nick Finnigan on 24 Jul 2010 06:35
JNugent wrote: > > Still is. It's a variant of cycling along the footway because it is not > possible to cycle across a pedestrian-only crossing without committing > that offence. It is possible ... If there is a "shared path" and a crossing designed with > that in mind, it's different. But that is comparatively rare. ... that's one way to do it. > Cycling across a zebra or pelicon (etc) is proma facie evidence of > misuse of the footway. In essence, the position is no different for a > cyclist from what it would be if a Lamborghini were driven along the > footway and then turned onto a crossing to reach the footway on the > other side of the carriageway. But you do not always need to cycle along a footway before cycling across the crossing. Particularly not in the case quoted by TC. |