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From: Mentalguy2k8 on 20 Jul 2010 16:39 "Adrian" <toomany2cvs(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:8amfckFdfqU15(a)mid.individual.net... > Tom Crispin <kije.remove(a)this.bit.freeuk.com.munge> gurgled happily, > sounding much like they were saying: > >> Sadly, in 2009, there was the first child cyclist fatality in London >> since 2004. A young lad was killed by a policeman driving a fast moving >> police car, with lights but no siren, as the child was cycling across a >> pedestrian crossing. > > It would probably be inappropriate to ask why somebody was cycling across > a pedestrian crossing, wouldn't it? > > I'm not sure it's relevant, either. The only relevant fact is that > somebody using a pedestrian crossing was not observing traffic properly. > On it's own, that should not result in a fatality. The police driver was > clearly not prepared for the crossing to be in use. As usual, > contributory fuckwittery on the part of both those involved. > > Nor do I see the fact it was a child as being particularly relevant - if > the child wasn't old enough to properly understand the rules of the road, > then it's a failure of the parents to properly supervise their child. > We've got at least three pedestrian crossings around here which "cyclists" use to cross from the pavement on one side, to the pavement on the other. They actually have to ride across two red cycle lanes (one on each side of the road) to get to the far pavement.
From: Brian Watson on 20 Jul 2010 16:53 "Mrcheerful" <nbkm57(a)hotmail.co.uk> wrote in message news:VOl1o.235346$sD7.191566(a)hurricane... >> Number of seriously injured cyclists up 6% >> Total casualties among cyclists up 5% > > that is probably because of an increase in their numbers coupled with a > lack of training/regulation Well, it's obviously a combination of factors (all of which will be talked to death here<vbg>) "Up is up" and only complacency JUST challenges the basis on which they are compiled without wanting to reduce both. That may be just using flakey figures as an excuse to improve road safety for cyclists, but if it reduces real numbers, I'd say that's a good thing. -- Brian "Fight like the Devil, die like a gentleman." www.imagebus.co.uk/shop
From: Roland Perry on 20 Jul 2010 16:53 In message <nf0c46phk1oa5e4pqi7elvqb352cr0e5kd(a)4ax.com>, at 21:21:59 on Tue, 20 Jul 2010, Tom Crispin <kije.remove(a)this.bit.freeuk.com.munge> remarked: >A young lad was killed by a policeman driving a fast moving police car, >with lights but no siren, as the child was cycling across a pedestrian >crossing. That has a certain resonance with a youngster reportedly run over by an ambulance while crossing a motorway a few nights ago. -- Roland Perry
From: Tony Raven on 20 Jul 2010 16:59 Tom Crispin wrote: > On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 19:52:37 +0100, Tony Raven <traven(a)gotadsl.co.uk> > wrote: >>> >> Somehow the minor fact that cyclist fatalities fell by 10% seems to >> have been overlooked. I can't think why on earth that would be. > > Not according to the Guardian's headline: "Sharp rise in number of > cyclists killed on roads" > http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/nov/05/cycling-deaths-department-of-transport > "The number of pedal cyclists killed fell by 10 per cent from 115 in 2008 to 104 in 2009. The number of seriously injured rose by 6 per cent to 2,606. The total casualties among pedal cyclists rose by 5 per cent to 17,064." Reported Road Casualties Great Britain Main Results: 2009 http://www.dft.gov.uk/pgr/statistics/datatablespublications/accidents/casualtiesmr/rrcgbmainresults2009 -- Tony " I would never die for my beliefs because I might be wrong." Bertrand Russell
From: Brian Watson on 20 Jul 2010 16:59
"The Peeler" <peelingthe(a)invalid.admin> wrote in message news:16vb46tdkrvm59tgjgme65bnii80m6fmpe(a)4ax.com... > On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 19:52:37 +0100, Tony Raven <traven(a)gotadsl.co.uk> > wrote: >>Somehow the minor fact that cyclist fatalities fell by 10% seems to have >>been overlooked. I can't think why on earth that would be. > > That only encourages the bastards. Cyclists are bastards? Surely not. :-) -- Brian "Fight like the Devil, die like a gentleman." www.imagebus.co.uk/shop |