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From: Adrian on 1 Apr 2010 09:46
Clive George <clive(a)xxxx-x.fsnet.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much
like they were saying:

> If their jobs are under threat (are they?)

From last summer...
http://www.motorauthority.com/blog/1026161_new-smaller-ghost-to-double-
rolls-royces-sales
"By the end of 2009 Rolls-Royce will have created almost 400 new jobs in
under two years, bringing the total number of employees based at Goodwood
in the UK to 900."
From: Another Dave on 1 Apr 2010 11:00
On 01/04/2010 07:56, Adrian wrote:
> Derek C<del.copeland(a)tiscali.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like
> they were saying:
>
>> Typical bit of class spite from the Labour Party that mainly affects
>> middle class folk living in the countryside.
>
> Are you trying to play the "Big 4x4s are necessary" line? Don't be
> ridiculous.
>
> As I've said before, my mother lives out in the sticks in the middle of
> the Peak District - and drives a 207. She's retired now, but used to
> commute every day over the back lanes and tops towards Manchester and,
> later, Liverpool. She did that in nothing more "off-road" than an Astra,
> a Saab 900, a Rover 800, a Xantia. I seem to recall her getting stuck
> once. When the snow-plough got stuck in front of her.

Like your mother, I live in the middle of the Peak District. Like her,
I've never felt the slightest need of a 4x4, although everybody else
seems to like poncing about in them. I've never been stuck behind a snow
plough, but I have been skidded into by a 4x4 - 4-wheel drive doesn't
make your brakes any better.

Another Dave

From: tim.... on 1 Apr 2010 11:41

"Derek C" <del.copeland(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote in message
news:93177a52-add6-46d7-b396-419256ce1d2b(a)u22g2000yqf.googlegroups.com...
On 1 Apr, 08:22, Adrian <toomany2...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> Derek C <del.copel...(a)tiscali.co.uk> gurgled happily, sounding much like
> they were saying:
>
>
>
>
>
> >> > Typical bit of class spite from the Labour Party that mainly affects
> >> > middle class folk living in the countryside.
> >> Are you trying to play the "Big 4x4s are necessary" line? Don't be
> >> ridiculous.
>
> >> As I've said before, my mother lives out in the sticks in the middle of
> >> the Peak District - and drives a 207. She's retired now, but used to
> >> commute every day over the back lanes and tops towards Manchester and,
> >> later, Liverpool. She did that in nothing more "off-road" than an
> >> Astra, a Saab 900, a Rover 800, a Xantia. I seem to recall her getting
> >> stuck once. When the snow-plough got stuck in front of her.
>
> >> As far as I can see, the cheapest Band M new cars are around �28/30k
> >> list high-performance versions.
> > Nearly all British made cars such as Rolls Royces, Range Rovers, Aston
> > Martins will be affected by this new tax.
>
> How about British made cars such as Toyotas, Hondas, Nissans? They're the
> VAST majority of British made cars, y'know, both numerically and by value
> - both absolute value and marginal value to the UK economy. Don't say
> "But they're foreign-owned", since the three brands you mentioned are all
> foreign-owned, too.
>
> The vast majority of both Land-Rover's and Jaguar's output are way below
> Band M. Jag XFs, XJs, Range-Rover Sports, Disco 4s - all are available a
> long way below Band M. The only reason the "full-fat" Range Rover isn't
> is because they've recently dropped the v6 diesel - mainstay of the
> current L322 range for most of it's life. Strange, since the 3.0 is
> considerably cleaner than the old 2.7, as well as stronger.
>
> Oh, and I think you might be on a loser with trying to drum up sympathy
> for the buyers of new Rolls-Royces, Bentleys or Aston-Martins by claiming
> that an extra �500 of tax will be a big hardship on the poor dears.- Hide
> quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

I hope you will have at least a little bit of sympathy for the British
workers at Rolls-Royce, Bentley, Aston Martin, etc, whose jobs are now
under threat by yet another Gordon Brown stealth tax on motorists!

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As the majority of these marques are exported it isn't going to make the
slightest difference

tim


From: ChelseaTractorMan on 1 Apr 2010 11:48
On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 18:08:35 -0700 (PDT), McKevvy
<vicko_zoomba(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

>The Treasury said the new tax regime would �send a stronger signal to
>the buyer about the environmental implications of their car purchase�.

We drive 15,000 miles a year in a Land Rover and emit 4.5 tons of CO2

one return flight to Canaries is 1.25 tons, they say emissions at
altitude are 2 to 3 times worse, maybe the penalties could be spread a
little fairer.
--
Mike. .. .
Gone beyond the ultimate driving machine.
From: ChelseaTractorMan on 1 Apr 2010 11:50
On Wed, 31 Mar 2010 22:37:56 -0700 (PDT), Derek C
<del.copeland(a)tiscali.co.uk> wrote:

>Typical bit of class spite from the Labour Party that mainly affects
>middle class folk living in the countryside. Unfortunately the Labour
>Party still seem to live in the early part of the 20th Century,

I would say you still live in the early 20C if you think labour is
involved in a working class struggle, Blair admired Thatcher, not
Trotsky.
--
Mike. .. .
Gone beyond the ultimate driving machine.
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