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From: Jim on 3 Sep 2008 17:37

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On Sep 3, 1:29 pm, "Ted" <T...(a)aol.com> wrote:
> Has anyone made ther own chassis/roll cage? any advice or tips?
> I can tig weld, but dont have a bender or notcher yet.

Follow the other guys advice (esp. Athol) on this - one thing I'll
add, however, is depending on what you're intending to do with the
car, just be sure that the regulations for your intended race class
allow the cage to be extended to the suspension mounts, or not, and
how far etc. A bit of research could save a lot of headache!

Cheers,
Steve
(an extra brace diagonally across the bottom of the shell (perhaps
incorporating tailshaft loop?) could radically increase rigidity)

*They are also used to increase body rigidity. A guy with a tweaked 340 cu
Charger fitted one solely for that reason. Valiants are particularly weak.
If you jack-up one wheel, the body twists to the extent the doors partially
jamb shut. A 2-door Charger may well be worse.

Jason




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From: OzOne on 3 Sep 2008 18:28
On Wed, 3 Sep 2008 07:42:25 +0200 (CEST), Athol
<athol_SPIT_SPAM(a)idl.net.au> wrote:

>Casper <casper(a)home.capalaba.qld.au> wrote:
>> "Ted" <Tedb(a)aol.com> wrote:
>
>>> Has anyone made ther own chassis/roll cage? any advice or tips?
>>> I can tig weld, but dont have a bender or notcher yet.
>
>> I don't mean to be a party pooper - but you know it's not legal to make your
>> own?
>
>Where?
>
>It's legal to make a roll cage for a roadgoing vehicle providing that it
>complies with the safety requirements, and, if seatbelts are fitted to it,
>the strength requirements.
>
>It's legal to build your own chassis as the basis of an individually
>constructed vehicle but the cost of compliance approval gets a bit steep...
>
>Interestingly, building a space frame as the frame for a body mounted onto
>an existing chassis (eg HQ Holden, Toyota Crown, Hilux, L300, Triton)
>without altering the wheelbase qualifies as a "rebodied" vehicle, being
>still classified as whatever the chassis is. Then, only the body (lights,
>seats, seatbelts, instrumentation, etc) has to comply with new ADRS.

Ahhhh the Canstel Clubman.....




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From: Noddy on 3 Sep 2008 18:38

"Knobdoodle" <knobdoodle(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Who said anything about a "roll cage"?!!?

The guy who asked the question originally.

> Are you seriously telling me it's illegal for me to put a lump of pipe in
> my car?

No, but it's illegal to have certain things in your car.

> I'm not talking about selling something that has to comply with
> warranty/insurance; nor am I talking about deleting or modifying anything
> that constitutes part of the Australian design regs; I'm talking about me
> carrying something in my private car. (whether I carry it loosely or bolt
> it into place)

If you "bolt it in place" then it becomes a modification, and depending on
what it is it has to comply to relevant regulations.

> If you're talking truth then I'm already in breach for the angle-iron I
> put behind the seats and the galvabond I put in the tray of the Brumby.

You probably are :)

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Regards,
Noddy.


From: Knobdoodle on 4 Sep 2008 07:24

"Noddy" <me(a)home.com> wrote in message
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>
> "Knobdoodle" <knobdoodle(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:uDwvk.33725$IK1.33062(a)news-server.bigpond.net.au...
>
>> Who said anything about a "roll cage"?!!?
>
> The guy who asked the question originally.
>
Then direct your reply to his post; not mine. I was just talking about some
pipe that I happen to have in my car. You may think it looks like a roll
cage but it's just some pipe.
>
>> Are you seriously telling me it's illegal for me to put a lump of pipe in
>> my car?
>
> No, but it's illegal to have certain things in your car.
>
>> I'm not talking about selling something that has to comply with
>> warranty/insurance; nor am I talking about deleting or modifying anything
>> that constitutes part of the Australian design regs; I'm talking about
>> me carrying something in my private car. (whether I carry it loosely or
>> bolt it into place)
>
> If you "bolt it in place" then it becomes a modification, and depending on
> what it is it has to comply to relevant regulations.
>
What it is is just a lump of pipe. It complies with all the pipe
regulations.
>
>> If you're talking truth then I'm already in breach for the angle-iron I
>> put behind the seats and the galvabond I put in the tray of the Brumby.
>
> You probably are :)
>
Damn those angle-iron regulations!!
--
Clem


From: Knobdoodle on 4 Sep 2008 08:49

"Athol" <athol_SPIT_SPAM(a)idl.net.au> wrote:
> Regardless of what knob might claim it's purpose is, if it's assembled
> into a shape that makes it a roll bar shape, whether it is bolted/welded
> in or not, it can be deemed a roll cage.
>
That's fine; you and your pinhead mates can "deem" it whatever you want.
You've got to prove it's a roll-cage or modification before it's illegal
though.
You mustn't have much goin' on if you get that excited about a bit of pipe.
--
Knob


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