From: NM on
On 3 Dec, 12:27, Eeyore
<rabbitsfriendsandrelati...(a)> wrote:
> Adrian wrote:
> > Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelati...(a)> gurgled happily,
> > sounding much like they were saying:
> >>> I've never used one single car where the horn switch is wired to work
> >>> with the ignition off.
> >> I wonder if it's now part of The Construction and Use Regulations.
> > Since damn near all of the cars I've owned predate the Volvo 480
> > mentioned in another reply - and many haven't been built to UK C&U regs -
> > I doubt it's due to a change in C&U.
> >> I'll see if I can find a copy online.
> > Good luck.
> Seems they want to charge for a full copy but I contacted VSE who put me
> through to someone who says there is no general rule. It therefore boils
> down to the specific model. A Rover 75 in this case.
> Leaving a vehicle with the engine running is obviously an offence unless
> there is a person licensed to drive it under Regulation 107 of the
> Construction and Use Regulations. In this case the remaining adult was
> in the front passenger seat and the law isn't clear about whether this
> is adequate or not ( nor do I know if that person has a driving licence ).
> It's certainly highly illegal to allow a child in the driver's seat (
> which is what the case was ) whilst the engine was running ( not least a
> seatbelt offence )and 'beeping' the horn regularly whilst stationary for
> some 5 minutes or so. The adult in the passenger seat did not intervene.
> It makes a BIG difference if I can prove that the engine was running.
> They dispute that. At the moment it's a 'you said, they said' issue.
> Graham

One of my earliest memories was of a Morris 8 series 2 tourer with a
cabriolet body. My parents not being car owners at the time were
invited for a drink by another couple, I was left in their car with
the hood down whilst they all went into the pub garden. I was under
strict instructions to behave and not touch anything. I climbed into
the front seat and found the horn push, great fun, toot toot for ages
both long and short blasts, eventually someone called plod, he arrived
but luckily for me parents appeared moments later, I got a good
smacking to remember it by (political correctness was a lot different
in those days) it must have been early fifties, in Beaconsfield
probably, anyway the horn worked very well with no ignition.

I owned an identical car later when I was about 18, a banger then, if
only I'd kept it (together with the MG J2, the Austin Ruby we cut the
body off with an axe to use on the moors, etc. etc. etc.).