From: Sylvia Else on
On 12/08/2010 3:36 PM, PHATRS wrote:
> On 12/08/10 15:03, Sylvia Else wrote:
>> On 12/08/2010 6:49 AM, Trevor Wilson wrote:
>>> Noddy wrote:
>>>> "Sylvia Else"<sylvia(a)not.here.invalid> wrote in message
>>>> news:8ce87eFl1lU1(a)mid.individual.net...
>>>>
>>>>> What is it about SUV drivers
>>>>
>>>> What a "SUV"? Is it some wankey Americanism?
>>>
>>> **I believe she means '4WD'.
>>>
>>> FWIW, back in around 1973 I was in the city (learning morse code) in an
>>> office building. There were a few of us exiting the building at lunch
>>> time.
>>> There was a loud 'crash'. Looking in the direction of the noise, we
>>> saw an
>>> EK Holden down the street. He had just stopped in the middle of the
>>> road. A
>>> little further up the road was a brand new Thunderbird. The guy had
>>> swung
>>> one of those huge doors open (as you know, a T-Bird is a two door) and
>>> the
>>> EK had neatly removed it, buggering the front guard at the same time.
>>> The
>>> guy in the T-Bird was pissed. We pissed ourselves laughing (after
>>> confirming
>>> that there were no injuries, of course).
>>
>> How much damage does the innocent party vehicle suffer in one of these
>> events?
>>
>> I need this information as input to my decision making while driving.
>>
>> Sylvia.
>
> That would depend if their door bounces back and scrapes along the side
> of your car...

Hmm...

Oh well, it wouldn't be the first time I've extracted the cost of a hire
car from the insurer of someone who's put my car off the road (rear
ended while stopped at traffic lights).

Sylvia.
From: Kev on
Milton wrote:
>
> "Kev" <kevcat(a)optunet.com.au> wrote in message
> news:4c62d731$0$316$afc38c87(a)news.optusnet.com.au...
>> Milton wrote:
>>>
>>> "Sylvia Else" <sylvia(a)not.here.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:8cema4FnbqU1(a)mid.individual.net...
>>>>
>>>
>>>> I wasn't aware that SUV wasn't a term in everyday usage in Australia.
>>>> Probably need to get out more.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> It certainly is and now the Japs with their Suzuki have thrown another
>>> one into the works. Their 4WD SX4 is called a "Crossover SUV".
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Milton
>>
>>
>> Kinda like the Original Holden Cruize
>> tiny box shaped thing with 12 inch wheels and AWD
>> looked like the old Suxuki "Move"
>>
>> Kev
>
> They do look alot like the original Holden Cruze but obviously being a
> Suzuki, a more serious 4wd than the Cruze. They have 16" wheels and a
> 4wd lock switch. Like most SUV's though, clearance is their main issue.
> They appear to be an oversized Swift with 4WD capabilities.
>
> Regards
>
> Milton


Remember the Daihatsu Hijet Vans and utes?
bongo van sized, lifted 50mm but the same 12 wheels and a proper 4WD
system(low range an all)

Kev
From: Sgt.Bungers on
On 2010.08.11 1012, Sylvia Else wrote:
> What is it about SUV drivers that makes them think they don't need to
> look into their mirrors before opening their doors?

Probably the same thing that made the ford falcon driver think she could
open her door into the path of my vehicle, being driven by my sister,
who was a learner at the time. Off went my mirror.

"I'm not paying for this." the falcon driver said... "I have no strikes
on my licence and have been driving for 12 years. She was too close."

"Strike one." I replied. "Did you not check your mirrors?"

"I don't have to!"

It ended up going through small claims, I was paid in full $460 for a
new mirror and $39 for small claims court fees.

Road rule 269/3, states something about not causing a hazard whilst
opening doors.


> I swear it's only a matter of time before one of them loses a door when
> I'm too close to brake, and oncoming traffic prevents me from steering
> away from them.

After that episode, my sister learnt to leave a bit of room in case of
error for both herself, and other peoples errors. May I recommend you
do the same? save yourself the hassle of being without your car for a
day or two whilst it's being repaired.

:-)

> Sylvia.

SB.
From: Noddy on

"Sylvia Else" <sylvia(a)not.here.invalid> wrote in message
news:8chdkcFq65U1(a)mid.individual.net...

> How much damage does the innocent party vehicle suffer in one of these
> events?

It would depend on the vehicles involved and at what point the door was
opened to when it was struck.

Worst case for you would be that you hit a Landcruiser door that was only
half way opened while you were driving some soft and fluffy little car. The
Landcruiser would lose it's door, but your car would probably be a write
off.

> I need this information as input to my decision making while driving.

Why should it make any difference? Are you implying that if you think the
risks to you are low that you'll deliberately strike the vehicle?

--
Regards,
Noddy.


From: Kev on
Sgt.Bungers wrote:
> On 2010.08.11 1012, Sylvia Else wrote:
>> What is it about SUV drivers that makes them think they don't need to
>> look into their mirrors before opening their doors?
>
> Probably the same thing that made the ford falcon driver think she could
> open her door into the path of my vehicle, being driven by my sister,
> who was a learner at the time. Off went my mirror.
>
> "I'm not paying for this." the falcon driver said... "I have no strikes
> on my licence and have been driving for 12 years. She was too close."
>
> "Strike one." I replied. "Did you not check your mirrors?"
>
> "I don't have to!"
>
> It ended up going through small claims, I was paid in full $460 for a
> new mirror and $39 for small claims court fees.
>
> Road rule 269/3, states something about not causing a hazard whilst
> opening doors.
>
>
>> I swear it's only a matter of time before one of them loses a door when
>> I'm too close to brake, and oncoming traffic prevents me from steering
>> away from them.
>
> After that episode, my sister learnt to leave a bit of room in case of
> error for both herself, and other peoples errors. May I recommend you do
> the same? save yourself the hassle of being without your car for a day
> or two whilst it's being repaired.

I've got a 100+ kg steel bullbar on my car and the mirrors are higher
than most car doors, but I don't intentionally drive close to parked
cars, mostly because it might not be a door thrust out in front but the
whole car


Kev
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