From: DervMan on 25 Jul 2008 02:19 "DanB" <iridiumdan(a)googlemail.com> wrote in message news:6esjrbF8nnbaU1(a)mid.individual.net... > "Douglas Payne" <douggie(a)cheerful.com> wrote in message > news:6esj9tF8od0tU1(a)mid.individual.net... >> jackhackettuk(a)yahoo.co.uk wrote of Saabs: >> >>> Aside from them being a bit shite and likely to depreciate like >>> buggery, any company that tries to market their cars as 'Eco >>> Power' (IIRC), when they're just as shite on fuel as anything else, >>> sucks. >> >> Yeah, I mean 'Ecotec' was a much cleverer marketing ploy, wasn't it? >> > > Yea but there was never really an advertising campaign saying "We have > Ecotec engines, they're well economical!" like Saab are doing with these > Ecopower things. You know, the advert with the guy that over takes a > truck and it's banging out about big engine power, from a smalll engine > with small engine costs. The one where you have bigger engine power for overtaking and smaller engines for economy? You've added a slight twist on words though... Their point is valid though; it's one reason why turbocharging is common. Throw in weight and space concerns and some clever software to help smooth boost, wheelspin, so on and so forth... oh and also turbocharging recycles some energy that is otherwise chucked out of the back and it can help reduce emissions other than carbon dioxide, should the Government decide that there are other pollutants too... My lardy comfortable four door barge has the low pressure 2.0 turbo donk, badged 1.8t; not very fast (150 bhp, 177 lbsft) but so far has been economical (~39 so far). By all accounts, having it Hirsch'd or buying a higher power model makes almost no difference to fuel consumption. Hirsch is 195 bhp / 229 lbsft, Aero is 210 / 221. I have the poor cousin of the 2.0 turbos in the 9-3 range. Good excuse to Hirsch upgrade*. :) *Saab's official consumption figures show the Hirsch uses less fuel on the Government tests than the vanilla engine. -- The DervMan www.dervman.com
From: jackhackettuk on 25 Jul 2008 06:32 On 25 Jul, 07:16, Adrian <toomany2...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > jackhacket...(a)yahoo.co.uk gurgled happily, sounding much like they were > saying: > > > only today I was out in the > > Astra at work and noted it really does have a cracking chassis... > > That'd explain the torque-steer. Still, I'm sure it can be welded up. Very good... <slow handclap> ;-) -- JackH
From: Elder on 25 Jul 2008 13:08 In article <48896c19$0$2520$da0feed9(a)news.zen.co.uk>, thedervman(a)gmail.com says... > The end being the people at the back. Some systems work remarkably well. I > like it icy cold, Charlie likes it furnace hot* and the 9-3 works well in > this respects. > It really does work nicely though doesn't it. -- Carl Robson Get cashback on your purchases Topcashback http://www.TopCashBack.co.uk/skraggy_uk/ref/index.htm Greasypalm http://www.greasypalm.co.uk/r/?l=1006553
From: Elder on 25 Jul 2008 13:16 In article <6es56gF8mlekU1(a)mid.individual.net>, iridiumdan(a)googlemail.com says... > Then of course the Vectra would require the old stage 3, big FMIC, full > Miltek inc pre-cat removal and sports cat (or is it cats?) and remap - > rumoured to show 330bhp+ and similar amounts of lbs/ft. Although to be > honest, I wouldn't bother with the FMIC, just the Miltek and remap for > 320bhp(ish). > One word. Maptun Stage 3 Pah, for children that is. http://www.maptun.com/cars_list.php?car=Saab%209-5 -- Carl Robson Get cashback on your purchases Topcashback http://www.TopCashBack.co.uk/skraggy_uk/ref/index.htm Greasypalm http://www.greasypalm.co.uk/r/?l=1006553
From: Elder on 25 Jul 2008 13:18
In article <1iklpk2.1mqjqwq1luz1fdN%steve(a)italiancar.co.uk>, steve(a)italiancar.co.uk says... > We're all petrolheads, but I can guarantee that the average bloke in the > street places Saab pretty much up there with the other prestige brands - > and streets ahead of Vauxhall. > That is the way it used to be. A Saab was a thinking man's BMW. But GM have failed to maintain that. Doctors, Lawyer, teachers, pilots, people who required precission and standards along with performance and longevity would buy Saab Turbos. Now it's all bloody reps in their 1.9Tids -- Carl Robson Get cashback on your purchases Topcashback http://www.TopCashBack.co.uk/skraggy_uk/ref/index.htm Greasypalm http://www.greasypalm.co.uk/r/?l=1006553 |