From: Steve Firth on
On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 17:36:11 +0000 (GMT), Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

> In article <1bj7eeyhmk1ub.r4ikea84btw6.dlg(a)40tude.net>,
> Steve Firth <%steve%@malloc.co.uk> wrote:
>>> Lidl's a great supermarket, the products they have are good quality,
>
>> Drivel. Lidl have been caught passing off products in the past and I
>> doubt that they have given up their ways. For example Lidl sell what
>> they claim is Italian olive oil at less than the cost of producing the
>> oil. How can they do that, I wonder?
>
> I'm sure you could find a similar story about any supermarket chain.

I'm not sure that you would. The key feature of the Lidl/Aldi olive oil
scam was the knowing participation of the stores in defrauding the public.
These companies set out to market something they knew was not only not what
it pretended to be, but also a product that most people would not willingly
consume, and to deliberately treat that product with a chemical process to
enable it to evade quality control procedures designed to stop suppliers
from passing off old substandard oil as EVOO.

> But Extra Virgin Italian olive oil ain't the sort of thing I'd go shopping
> for in Lidl...

It's one product I know well, hence I know what goes on in some corners of
the industry. However to me it's naive to think that if they apply such low
standards and shoddy business practices in one area that they don't follow
the same logic for every product they sell.
From: Steve Firth on
On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 17:57:10 -0000, Knight Of The Road wrote:

> "Abo" <no(a)spam.thanks> wrote
>
>
>> Well yeah, if you want chicken kievs or a pack of lard. Try getting a
>> fresh Oakham chicken from Asda and see where you get.
>
>
> Also, try buying chicken kievs in Kiev and see what you get. The last one I
> bought had prunes in it.

It probably came with nourishing Caesium 137 as well.
From: Conor on
In article <fyd5ln3dqlrg$.xwavac46rce6.dlg(a)40tude.net>, Steve Firth
says...
> On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 14:15:31 -0000, Conor wrote:
>
> > In article <th856i2gxhr1$.xpjacjiidvhg.dlg(a)40tude.net>, Steve Firth
> > says...
> >
> >>
> >> Asda do well on this, the milk they offer at their stores in Hampshire
> >> comes from ... Hampshire. They identify which farm supplied the Asda
> >> branded milk at each store.
> >>
> > That'll be a good trick. I'd love to know how they manage to do that.
>
> Because the farms they use have their own dairies.

Again, it's all an exercise in manipulation of the facts.

Chestnut Dairies in Seaton, just outside of Hull, works in such a way.
HOWEVER, when they haven't enough milk of their own to meet the demand,
they get more tankered in. A few times in the last month or so I've
taken 28000 litres there.

So whilst it may be delivered from that farm, it might not be that
farms milk.


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From: Steve Firth on
On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 18:19:21 -0000, Conor wrote:

> In article <fyd5ln3dqlrg$.xwavac46rce6.dlg(a)40tude.net>, Steve Firth
> says...
>> On Fri, 23 Feb 2007 14:15:31 -0000, Conor wrote:
>>
>>> In article <th856i2gxhr1$.xpjacjiidvhg.dlg(a)40tude.net>, Steve Firth
>>> says...
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Asda do well on this, the milk they offer at their stores in Hampshire
>>>> comes from ... Hampshire. They identify which farm supplied the Asda
>>>> branded milk at each store.
>>>>
>>> That'll be a good trick. I'd love to know how they manage to do that.
>>
>> Because the farms they use have their own dairies.
>
> Again, it's all an exercise in manipulation of the facts.
>
> Chestnut Dairies in Seaton, just outside of Hull, works in such a way.
> HOWEVER, when they haven't enough milk of their own to meet the demand,
> they get more tankered in. A few times in the last month or so I've
> taken 28000 litres there.
>
> So whilst it may be delivered from that farm, it might not be that
> farms milk.

Maybe not, but I'd rather my money went locally like this rather than to
some AgriBusiness in central France.
From: Conor on
In article <Nd-dnXfTbLphrELYRVnyuwA(a)bt.com>, Knight Of The Road says...
> "Conor" <conor.turton(a)gmail.com> wrote
>
>
> >>
> > Why not? The M&S ones are sourced from farms which supply many
> > retailers.
>
>
> You never can tell. I used to take potatoes from Holland to McCains at
> (iirc) Ancaster, in Lincolnshire. Before they accepted them, they used to
> test-fry a batch because they had to fall within a certain colour range when
> cooked.
>
> The loads McCains rejected used to go to be packaged up for M & S.
>
THey still test fry them but apparently now it's to determine the
length of time they're stored prior to processing.


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