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From: Tom Crispin on 6 Jul 2008 04:46 On Sun, 06 Jul 2008 08:08:33 GMT, Chris Bartram <news(a)delete-me.piglet-net.net> wrote: >Tom Crispin wrote: >> On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 00:00:22 +0100, %steve%@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) >> wrote: >> >>> Perhaps they should >>> be made to sit a test before being allowed on the roads? >> >> With a little modification, a great idea. One of Cycling England's >> objectives is that every primary child should have the opportunity to >> take Bikeability Levels 1 and 2. >> >> Thanks to the local scheme I run, 285 children in Lewisham have passed >> Bikeability Levels 1 and 2 before their 11th birthday. Of the 7 who >> chose not to take the course I suspect most will never ride a bike. >Is the old cycling proficiency scheme still going? I did that aged 10-11 >at primary school and IMHO it really made a difference. It has been greatly enhanced. Level 1 Bikeability - bicycle control skills in the school playground Level 2 Bikeability - on-road cycling skills using quieter roads Level 3 Bikeability - cycling using busier roads and complex junctions The age guidelines I use are: Level 1 - Age 6 Level 2 - Age 8 Level 3 - Age 10 This is lower than Cycling England recommend - which is one year older for all levels. I am in the process of setting up a modular format course for Level 3 Bikeability, with five 2 hour learning modules and four 2 or 3 hour modules and a two day cycle tour. LEARNING MODULES 1. using mini roundabouts 2. using traffic light junctions 3. cycling in slow moving traffic 4. using multi-lane roads 5. using major roundabouts EXPERIENCE MODULES 1. bikes security and repairs 2. route planning 3. using cycle facilities 4. cycling at night 5. cycle touring To pass Level 3 young cyclists will have to pass each of the learning modules, which can be re-taken, and have completed each of the experience modules. As well as this, they will be expected to keep a log of personal cycling experience. www.johnballcycling.org.uk/misc/logbook
From: ®i©ardo on 6 Jul 2008 04:52 Danny Colyer wrote: > On 05/07/2008 22:57, Steve Firth wrote: >> If I'm driving a car and someone opens a door and I drive into it, the >> accident is my fault, not the fault of the person opening the door. > > And what about HC rule 239? > "You MUST ensure you do not hit anyone when you open your door. Check > for cyclists or other traffic". > >> Quite why cyclists believe that the responsibility should go the other >> way is beyond me. > > Perhaps reading the HC would help you. > But however much care one takes, there is always the chance of a cyclist or passing motorist colliding with the door. That is *not* the same thing as "hitting anyone when you open your door". -- Moving things in still pictures!
From: Brimstone on 6 Jul 2008 04:53 Tom Crispin wrote: > I am in the process of setting up a modular format course for Level 3 > Bikeability, with five 2 hour learning modules and four 2 or 3 hour > modules and a two day cycle tour. > <snipped> Could you clarify something for me please? 1. You teach people, mainly children AIUI to ride bicycles safely. 2. You were recently involved in a collision with a moving motor vehicle which resulted in you suffering personal injury. Is there not a certain irony here (if not a case of the blind leading the blind)?
From: ®i©ardo on 6 Jul 2008 04:59 Tom Crispin wrote: > On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 00:00:22 +0100, %steve%@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) > wrote: > >> Perhaps they should >> be made to sit a test before being allowed on the roads? > > With a little modification, a great idea. One of Cycling England's > objectives is that every primary child should have the opportunity to > take Bikeability Levels 1 and 2. > > Thanks to the local scheme I run, 285 children in Lewisham have passed > Bikeability Levels 1 and 2 before their 11th birthday. Of the 7 who > chose not to take the course I suspect most will never ride a bike. Why are there so few children in lewisham? -- Moving things in still pictures!
From: Brimstone on 6 Jul 2008 05:02
�i�ardo wrote: > Tom Crispin wrote: >> On Sun, 6 Jul 2008 00:00:22 +0100, %steve%@malloc.co.uk (Steve Firth) >> wrote: >> >>> Perhaps they should >>> be made to sit a test before being allowed on the roads? >> >> With a little modification, a great idea. One of Cycling England's >> objectives is that every primary child should have the opportunity to >> take Bikeability Levels 1 and 2. >> >> Thanks to the local scheme I run, 285 children in Lewisham have >> passed Bikeability Levels 1 and 2 before their 11th birthday. Of >> the 7 who chose not to take the course I suspect most will never >> ride a bike. > > Why are there so few children in lewisham? Doug has frightened tham all away. |